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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:47 am Post subject: How controversial are you in your classroom? |
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Emboldened by a previous interesting, MOD EDIT I was wondering about something I notice with teachers here in Japan (I can only extrapolate about other areas as I have been in Japan the last 13 years). Many of the teachers seem to fall into two camps, those who sometimes court controversy, and those who seem to work hard to avoid any hint of it. What I am specifically talking about is the topics you introduce into your classes.
Of course, sometimes I am working on basic language I think students need to have, but when it comes to additional language, I don't think it always helps to have students be unaware of topics that might crop up when they visit parts of the world. that and just because something is controversial, doesn't mean they should be ignorant of it simply because it might be more difficult to phrase an opinion about it (emotionallly that is).
But also these are often hot topics that though contentious, are being discussed in other places. Of course, some will not seem very controversial for your student (like many questions about religion in Japan, where people are often members of several religions at once).
So what topics are taboo for you as a teacher to have discussed in class? |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Pretty much everything when I'm dealing with any undergraduates, since they can't handle the vocabulary. Even many grad students can't.
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First-year student asked me what the verb "cause" meant. Uh, you're a science student and don't know that...? |
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Ariadne
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 960
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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I'm in China and some topics are strongly discouraged, like Taiwan and Tibet and religion. I'm personally very interested in the huge influence that parents have on their college age children here so I often bring up subjects that relate to that, like marriage and choosing a major. The kids giggle if I even suggest that they might have a boyfriend or a girlfriend, so I don't think we'll be talking about sex anytime soon. They don't seem to read much news so it can be tricky talking about current events. As someone else mentioned, the students often don't have enough vocabulary to really discuss some issues and it can be easy to have misunderstandings.
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mozzar
Joined: 16 May 2009 Posts: 339 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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I've been thinking about this as well. From what I remember of my psychology A level, controversy can help students learn as it's more emotional and will help them retain the information better. I don't consider any topics to be taboo as long as they're discussed in a sensible fashion. I never set out with contentious issues in mind but in the last few weeks classes have somehow diverged into such topics as peadophilia and incest.
I tend to use it as an opportunity to show appropriate language to use for sensitive contexts. This only really becomes discussed with intermediate+ students. |
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denise

Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 3419 Location: finally home-ish
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:35 am Post subject: |
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Controversial topics in the Gulf??? Stay away!!! No discussion of religion, relationships/dating, sex... only very limited discussion of anything political... best to stick to safe things like family, hometowns, how wonderful life in the Gulf is, etc.
And I haven't played music in my classroom in three years now.
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ntropy

Joined: 11 Oct 2003 Posts: 671 Location: ghurba
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:24 am Post subject: |
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God I miss being able to use music in the classroom. |
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tommchone
Joined: 27 Oct 2009 Posts: 108
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:34 am Post subject: |
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In China, I am contractually forbidden to discuss government and religion. The students can, but I can't; and, of course, even they have to be careful what they say about the Chinese government. |
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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Vocabulary is a problem sometimes, yet I still have students ask amusing questions. I was covering some Japlish (Japanese-English) examples last week, and we were covering the phrase 'play catch'. Now for the usual meaning, Japanese often say "play catch-ball".
I also included the meaning that Japanese think "play catch" means, which means 'to go girl hunting/pick up girls'. I taught them these phrases after asking if the students knew the equivalent Japanese phrase for the previous. So after that was cleared up, one honey asked me, " Teacher, did you ever do any girl hunting here in Japan?" Of course I smartly answered, " Not (yet) at this university". (she knows I'm married).
I have also taught with this thread.
http://www.volconvo.com/forums/politics-government/22021-bombing-hiroshima-nagasaki-act-terrorism.html
http://www.volconvo.com/forums/
This of course is with an intermediate level seminar class. We were debating about Terrorism, this was used as an initial opening thread.
I don't try to scare my students away, but I'm not afraid to open up cans of worms.
I also use music in class, I like to listen to punk, rock, whatever. Sometimes I use stuff that's easier to pick up the lyrics from, other times I play what I like while they're doing non-speaking exercises or during the breaks between classes (we've talked about music as a topic in all these classes, genres, instruments, etc..).
We don't talk about religion generally as religion is not a 'hot' topic in Japan as most Japanese have very flexible ideas of what religions are. As to government, one of my students is doing a presentation on the current Prime Minister, don't expect to hear anything controversial, but I do hear dissenting voices, especially when we talk about MEXT (The Ministry of Education, Culture, Sports, Science, and Technology), which controls a lot of what goes on in all schools in Japan.
My students have heard plenty of 'interesting' language, I just try to make sure they understand what some of it means .
PS in the opening post, the mod edit went after 'th3read', not sure why that would be edited?! |
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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, scared everyone off ?
I know, my students are afraid usually to discuss their dating habits too. But, you can get students to open up, it just might not always be what you expect. A simple questions such as "What kind of job would you like to do in the future?" brought this one response;
I want to be a police officer. My father was a police oficer and killed by the Yakuza when I was 10. He told me that some people have to protect society from bad people, so I want to do this work too.
Scared me !
I also had a student on one of my class blogs in my Business English class start carrying on about N. Korea. I told him we would discuss politics in class (as I feel government is of course a major influence in business), but it should be brought up when appropriate (the question thread that he introduced it in, it really had no bearing, so I later deleted it).
Everyone still also avoiding their students at their school festivals (granted you can eat only so much festival food) and or local coffee shops? |
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natsume
Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 409 Location: Chongqing, China
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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gaijinalways wrote: |
Everyone still also avoiding their students at their school festivals (granted you can eat only so much festival food) and or local coffee shops? |
"Everyone"?
At my current high school I have worked with two JTEs who have wanted to do units/projects (poster or powerpoint research projects, writing articles for a class newspaper) on global issues, the environment, poverty, globalization, etc. Wether or not one finds these topics to be controversial would depend on ones own political/ideological perspective, and the rigidness of of ones pedagogy. I find them to be quite valuable as awareness raising exercises and a chance to work with authentic English, but only with classes who will be open to doing these kinds of projects. (We have a fairly broad range of academic/English ability and maturity level among the many departments at this school.)
As far as "controversial personal questions" goes, I did have a trio of girls ask me recently "which do you like, S or M?"
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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:39 am Post subject: |
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As far as "controversial personal questions" goes, I did have a trio of girls ask me recently "which do you like, S or M?" |
You mean small or medium?
Oh I just wondered, though the number of views is always higher than the number of posts, but the forum seems lively on some other 'common' threads. Oh well, can't please everyone.
I will have to teach 'pillow hair' next week, though mine was actually caused by a sweater vest pulled over my head as well as strap of my briefcase caught in my short hair. |
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Chris_Crossley

Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:45 pm Post subject: Discussing controversial issues in class |
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tommchone wrote: |
In China, I am contractually forbidden to discuss government and religion. The students can, but I can't; and, of course, even they have to be careful what they say about the Chinese government. |
"Contractually forbidden"? WTF?!
There is nothing in my contract about what I can or cannot teach my students, all of whom are meant to be going to England after the end of their programme in order to pursue master's degrees. They can therefore say whatever they like about the Chinese government - when they are not in China, that is!
Having said that, I have a set programme within the Speaking and Discussion module that exists within the course they do in which controversial issues are, indeed, discussed, though, given the sensitivity of the PRC government, I steer clear of anything concerned with China apart from an article from the Washington Post about Chinese migrant workers which I believe contained no information likely to cause offence.
In the suite of issues under discussion are: dangerous dogs, smoking in public places, being forced to move house to make way for new public works such as a new railway line, the legal right of a school girl to set up an anti-abortion club in her high school, a controversial bill which if it had become law would have allowed employers to sack workers under 26 after less than two years in employment without being sued (which was eventually abandoned after much protest in the streets), being suspended from high school just for speaking your own language during breaktime in the corridor with a friend, etc, etc.
All of these are based on news articles that I get the students to read and discuss in pairs. The one about the high school anti-abortion club was the most recent one we did and, at one point, there were Chinese students talking across the room to each other - in English! That's when it really got interesting!
Hence, discussions about controversial issues in the news can prove to be really productive amongst students who otherwise might not want to make oral contributions in class. |
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Deicide

Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 1005 Location: Caput Imperii Americani
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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denise wrote: |
Controversial topics in the Gulf??? Stay away!!! No discussion of religion, relationships/dating, sex... only very limited discussion of anything political... best to stick to safe things like family, hometowns, how wonderful life in the Gulf is, etc.
And I haven't played music in my classroom in three years now.
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I thought you loved teaching in the Gulf? |
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denise

Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Posts: 3419 Location: finally home-ish
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Deicide wrote: |
denise wrote: |
Controversial topics in the Gulf??? Stay away!!! No discussion of religion, relationships/dating, sex... only very limited discussion of anything political... best to stick to safe things like family, hometowns, how wonderful life in the Gulf is, etc.
And I haven't played music in my classroom in three years now.
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I thought you loved teaching in the Gulf? |
You have clearly misinterpreted me.
I like my job. I like teaching in general. I like my life. Nowhere did I say, "I love teaching in the Gulf." I have simply adapted enough to enjoy myself. It was a conscious decision--you can choose to stay and be unhappy, leave and hope to be happy (no guarantees, of course...), or stay and make yourself happy.
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Deicide

Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 1005 Location: Caput Imperii Americani
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Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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denise wrote: |
Deicide wrote: |
denise wrote: |
Controversial topics in the Gulf??? Stay away!!! No discussion of religion, relationships/dating, sex... only very limited discussion of anything political... best to stick to safe things like family, hometowns, how wonderful life in the Gulf is, etc.
And I haven't played music in my classroom in three years now.
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I thought you loved teaching in the Gulf? |
You have clearly misinterpreted me.
I like my job. I like teaching in general. I like my life. Nowhere did I say, "I love teaching in the Gulf." I have simply adapted enough to enjoy myself. It was a conscious decision--you can choose to stay and be unhappy, leave and hope to be happy (no guarantees, of course...), or stay and make yourself happy.
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How does one 'make oneself' happy? By forcing yourself to smile in the mirror?  |
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