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chenn0
Joined: 03 Nov 2009 Posts: 34
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 12:39 am Post subject: Any idea of my chances? |
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Here is my situation:
I'm dreaming of living in a Latin American country. Mexico is one of my top picks. I'm wanting to leave the U.S around May or June of 2010. However, I'm a very young lad (20 yrs). I have no degree in college (come next May I believe I would be eligible to have majored in Spanish, but I lack several basics at the Univ. level), and I am planning on getting TEFL certificate as soon as I move...also I have no teaching experience.
However, I do know a few people in Mexico who already said would help me out as much as they could...that's a plus. And I believe I could save enough money to go get my cert in mex and be fine for a couple of months.
I do also worry about not being able to work legally, not finding a place that would hire me, dificulties getting an apartment that i can afford, etc etc. I actually have seemingly endless doubts, questions, and worries. However, knowing this little tiny bit about me and my situation, can anyone with experience and knowledge tell me what they think ?
thank you very much |
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geaaronson
Joined: 19 Apr 2005 Posts: 948 Location: Mexico City
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:02 am Post subject: my advice |
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Finish that degree. It�s going to be difficult for you to finish it if you depart for Mexico and then return to the U.S. to finish it off.
Then get your TEFL certification and come down here. You�ll be in a much better situation. |
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chenn0
Joined: 03 Nov 2009 Posts: 34
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:06 am Post subject: |
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Is it completely necessary for one to have a degree to get a job, though? In what ways would it be difficult to complete it should I return?
thanks for the reply |
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wildchild

Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 519 Location: Puebla 2009 - 2010
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:28 am Post subject: |
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hey man,
coming down here without a degree, I wouldn't recommend it.
but it's your life, do what you will... you never know what just might happen... |
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rrrjjjmmm
Joined: 07 Feb 2009 Posts: 12
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:53 am Post subject: |
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I know a few people that have come down here without degrees and gotten perfectly reasonable jobs. And during the immigration process, degree certificates were never even requested from my partner and I. Just the TEFL.
It's really unpredictable here sometimes though, so do plenty of research on that! |
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Oreen Scott

Joined: 11 Jan 2008 Posts: 179 Location: Oaxaca, Mexico
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:24 am Post subject: |
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In Mexioc I've met EFL teachers who have no credentials who work illegally, EFL teachers whose first language is English who have a minimal EFL certificate that personally I don't think is good enough, and how they use their mother tongue caused me to shutter.
Before coming to Mexico I upgraded my education by taking what in Canada ia called a CTESL which is only availabe at certain colleges and university who have been approved by a national body. While working full-time and going to university part-time I also volunteered in classrooms under the tutlage of qualified teachers.
I can teach English as an other language in my home country. Therefore I feel qualified to teach English as a foreign language in Mexico.
My point? You can get a job without training, experience or education. But, is that fair to your students, or the country you are working in? |
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Phil_K
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2041 Location: A World of my Own
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Guilty!!!
Maybe my first students suffered, but I'd ask the OP to consider how deep his knowledge of English is - take an online test of English - and if he thinks he has the ability to teach it. I just sometimes feel that people get too hung up about qualifications. I took the route of no degree, no cert, etc - and I'm sitting in my office here lording it! The OP is 26 years younger - go for it - just have enough money to get back if necessary. |
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Prof.Gringo

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Phil_K wrote: |
Guilty!!!
Maybe my first students suffered, but I'd ask the OP to consider how deep his knowledge of English is - take an online test of English - and if he thinks he has the ability to teach it. I just sometimes feel that people get too hung up about qualifications. I took the route of no degree, no cert, etc - and I'm sitting in my office here lording it! The OP is 26 years younger - go for it - just have enough money to get back if necessary. |
College is way overated.
Plenty of jobs here for all, degree or no degree.
Be sure to get a TEFL so you can support the ESL/TEFL industry  |
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Prof.Gringo

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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rrrjjjmmm wrote: |
I know a few people that have come down here without degrees and gotten perfectly reasonable jobs. And during the immigration process, degree certificates were never even requested from my partner and I. Just the TEFL.
It's really unpredictable here sometimes though, so do plenty of research on that! |
You can get a FM-3 work visa with no degree, that's very true. |
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wildchild

Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 519 Location: Puebla 2009 - 2010
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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Plenty of jobs here for all, degree or no degree. |
yeah, for sure. you could always clean windshields at stoplights. |
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Prof.Gringo

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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wildchild wrote: |
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Plenty of jobs here for all, degree or no degree. |
yeah, for sure. you could always clean windshields at stoplights. |
Or teach business ESL classes for $200 pesos an hour
Teach full-time in a langauge school.
Or teach kids in a colegio.
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wildchild

Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 519 Location: Puebla 2009 - 2010
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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yeah, sure man. |
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Prof.Gringo

Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 2236 Location: Dang Cong San Viet Nam Quang Vinh Muon Nam!
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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Phil_K wrote: |
Guilty!!!
Maybe my first students suffered, but I'd ask the OP to consider how deep his knowledge of English is - take an online test of English - and if he thinks he has the ability to teach it. I just sometimes feel that people get too hung up about qualifications. I took the route of no degree, no cert, etc - and I'm sitting in my office here lording it! The OP is 26 years younger - go for it - just have enough money to get back if necessary. |
You're living proof that you don't need a degree.
So sorry to all the college grads who insist otherwise. |
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wildchild

Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 519 Location: Puebla 2009 - 2010
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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and how many who come here without degrees and fail???
maybe that's something you could learn a little about in college, statistics. |
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Phil_K
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2041 Location: A World of my Own
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Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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wildchild wrote: |
and how many who come here without degrees and fail???
maybe that's something you could learn a little about in college, statistics. |
If you think you'll succeed, you're right. If you think you'll fail, you're right. (To paraphrase JFK (I think!)). Maybe they don't teach calculated risk in college. To quote Sir Richard Branson - just protect the downside. |
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