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kanjizai
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 Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 10:08 pm Post subject: Does anyone get denied for Nova? |
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| I just had my interview with NOVA here in San Diego. I wanted to know what they where looking for in the interview and if they deny people. If so what can ,I do to get to Japan as an english teacher? |
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fat_chris
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 3:16 am Post subject: Re: Does anyone get denied for Nova? |
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| kanjizai wrote: |
| If so what can I do to get to Japan as an english teacher? |
If not Nova ("no go" in Spanish, hopefully not an appropriate moniker in your case), then with GEOS or AEON or ECC? |
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shmooj
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 3:33 am Post subject: |
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From what I hear, people get denied plenty with Nova
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PAULH
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Location: Western Japan
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 3:53 am Post subject: Re: Does anyone get denied for Nova? |
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| kanjizai wrote: |
| I just had my interview with NOVA here in San Diego. I wanted to know what they where looking for in the interview and if they deny people. If so what can ,I do to get to Japan as an english teacher? |
heres what I think they look for- a person who;
speaks little or no Japanese
little teaching experience or qualifications and will not re-invent the wheel for them
Not TEFL qualified
No grand management pretensions
preferably young (they have 40 year old teachers though)
teachable and wont rock the boat
interested in japanese culture but wont just use them for the visa
reasonably presentable
will rent an apartment from them, get a NOVA phone and sign up for insurance- anything that makes NOVA money
Not too fussy about where they work
be willing to work a solid 8 hour day teaching 6-7 classes a day. |
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ellienihon
Joined: 20 Sep 2003
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Location: San Diego, CA
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| ECC and Aeon both do interviews out of LA. I don't know about Geos. BTW, Hi! I'm in San Diego too, but I'm leaving at the end of March. |
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avahanian
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| ellienihon wrote: |
| ECC and Aeon both do interviews out of LA. I don't know about Geos. BTW, Hi! I'm in San Diego too, but I'm leaving at the end of March. |
Hi,
As far as I know, if you're interested in interviewing with GEOS you'll have to fly to Vancouver Canada (that is the closest branch to you).
ECC do have a branch in LA but are not interviewing again until April.
cheers |
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Glenski
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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| Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| what can ,I do to get to Japan as an english teacher? |
If you can't afford to fly here and job hunt (it is very expensive to do so), you are forced to interview with the 10 or so places that hire from overseas.
NOVA
GEOS
ECC
AEON
Altia
Westgate Corporation
Peppy Kids Club
James English House
Language House
JET Programme |
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april
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Location: Australia
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 12:15 am Post subject: |
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| I suggest that you also check the career's section in your newspaper. I know every week in my newspaper there is at least one, usually several, classified ads requesting teachers for Japan (as well as China, Korea, England etc) and these are by smaller companies. Sometimes the ads are really tiny and just give a phone number and don't reveal the name of the company. Ocassionally companies like Interac, who usually only hire within Japan, do a recruitment drive overseas. |
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fat_chris
Joined: 10 Sep 2003
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Location: Beijing
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:28 am Post subject: Re: Does anyone get denied for Nova? |
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| PAULH wrote: |
heres what I think they look for- a person who;
speaks little or no Japanese
little teaching experience or qualifications and will not re-invent the wheel for them
Not TEFL qualified
No grand management pretensions
preferably young (they have 40 year old teachers though)
teachable and wont rock the boat
interested in japanese culture but wont just use them for the visa
reasonably presentable
will rent an apartment from them, get a NOVA phone and sign up for insurance- anything that makes NOVA money
Not too fussy about where they work
be willing to work a solid 8 hour day teaching 6-7 classes a day. |
Paul, do you think that GEOS, ECC and AEON look for people with similar such characteristics listed above? Nova wouldn't be a match for me then as I go against a lot of the criteria you have listed. |
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PAULH
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Western Japan
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:33 am Post subject: Re: Does anyone get denied for Nova? |
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| fat_chris wrote: |
| [Paul, do you think that GEOS, ECC and AEON look for people with similar such characteristics listed above? Nova wouldn't be a match for me then as I go against a lot of the criteria you have listed. |
Chris, one thing that people forget, is that besides these are the only companies big enough and rich enough to set up shop in the US and Canada have offices and staff, to recruit every person that walks in off the street or answers an ad- you will have the same said applicants applying to half a dozen different companies in case they get turned down at the first interview. So what you have is people being interviewed by all 4 companies, who have a vague interest in travelling to Japan or in Japanese culture, have a Bachelors degree, and can obtain a visa. Japanese and previous teaching experience is not usually necessary. A bubbly and friendly personality with a natural curiousity about their students is advisable. After so long here perhaps Im a bit jaded and sometimes know about things in Japan better than they do. Hearing about Shogatsu and O-Bon and what they did on the weekend for the 100th time gets a bit thin after a while.
My guess is that people actually with previous training and experience in ESL probably make up less than a 3rd of successful applicants.
I cant say for sure what GEOS AEON and ECC look for, but considering they hire from the same gene pool, they generally teach the same kinds of students in a more or less 'mass-produced' fashion- you wont want someone who will get bored easily and thinks he knows better than the company and what they and the students need.
Truth be told, I used to work for NOVA and I think if I applied again I would not be accepted as the kind of teacher they are looking for. |
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Gordon
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| Paul, if I was a manager at Nova and you came looking for a job, I'd think you were nuts and wouldn't hire you. |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:20 am Post subject: |
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| Gordon wrote: |
| Paul, if I was a manager at Nova and you came looking for a job, I'd think you were nuts and wouldn't hire you. |
You gotta be to stick around as long as I have. I actually went stir crazy (cabin fever?)last year. Literally off the deep end.
Go figure. |
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cangel
Joined: 12 May 2003
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Location: Jeonju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I believe a lot of the characteristics listed previously are valid but not the rule. I think Nova, like any company, would like to hire the best qualified, so long as the best qualified are willing to work for about the same wage as less qualified candidates. This isn�t a debate about what makes someone a good teacher of a �qualified� teacher. I�ve seen similar threads get way out of hand going down that dark, and winding path. I received a MSEd in TESOL back in 2000. After receiving my degree I spent three years as an ALT. I returned to my home country and didn�t like the job market so I interviewed with Nova and was offered a position. I basically contradict all the characteristics listed but I am willing to work for what they pay while looking for bigger and brighter opportunities. Why should Nova seek out and reward those who have chosen this as a career and who have obtained professional qualifications when there are hundreds, maybe even thousands, of fresh-faced college grads beating down their door? |
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sutekigaijin
Joined: 19 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 10:36 am Post subject: no doubt |
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| Glenski is right here. If you cannot get here to job hunt, then you can try and get hired by one of the 10 companies Glenski mentioned. He's in the know. Listen to him please. |
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