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skullytefldude



Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:43 am    Post subject: Should I take this offer? Reply with quote

I am thinking about applying to this company and I would like to hear from some of the tefl guru's if this is a good deal or not.


ESL Teachers Saudi Arabia-US$4000/a month
Saudi Arabia, Riyadh

This advert was posted on: Monday, October 19, 2009

Immediate positions for both men and women. EFL Teacher Qualifications: Native speaker only. TESOL, Applied Linguistics, English, Education or related fields. Preference for applicants with teaching experience.

We are looking for English teachers to teach non-native speakers in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. You can get good compensation and benefits up to $4000 monthly salary including free accomodation and 2 way air-ticket. We would like to provide great ESL classes with fun activities, and unforgettable English learning experience to our students.

*Monthly Salary: US$3000 to US$4000 (tax free) based on credentials and experience.

*Benefits:
- Free housing
- Free health insurance
- Transportation from and to work place is also provided.
- Paid summer vacation
- Annual free 2 way tickets
- Ramadan, Hajj and mid-year breaks during the teaching year
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds reasonable, but who from and working where?
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skullytefldude



Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The offer is from International co. of edu & E-learning. You will work at various places in Riyadh according to their offer
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Kalima Shahada



Joined: 11 Sep 2009
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Location: I live in a house, but my home is in the stable.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You will work at various places in Riyadh according to their offer


Horse manure! This sounds like a scam to me. I wouldn't touch this 'offer' with a ten foot pole.
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saharastars



Joined: 30 Sep 2009
Posts: 107
Location: Wonderland

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats not nice Shahada, horse manure it isn't- that stuff is coveted like gold dust at the local horticultural society, you should see the flowers and as of r the veg..well its awe inspiring-how about 'super dodgy' as my Oxbridge professor would say or- '....don't touch even with a barge pole...'
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Middle East Beast



Joined: 05 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The salary is marginally OK.

Is the housing shared? If so, I'd dump it.

The health insurance...get the specifics. Some so-called coverage is worthless.

I'd be very cautious regarding the various work location--get the specifics.

Find out the physical location of the company. If it's not in Riyadh, or worse yet, it's not in the Kingdom, I wouldn't consider it.

What kind of students? "Mid-year breaks" indicates college.

MEB
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Kalima Shahada



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Location: I live in a house, but my home is in the stable.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

saharastars wrote:
Thats not nice Shahada, horse manure it isn't- that stuff is coveted like gold dust at the local horticultural society, you should see the flowers and as of r the veg..well its awe inspiring-how about 'super dodgy' as my Oxbridge professor would say or- '....don't touch even with a barge pole...'

Maybe I'm in the wrong field then and I've missed my calling - that is, selling horse manure. Looks likes some people are finding buyers. Hey, I could sell purebred Arabian, American ... horse manure. Smile I'm sure I could get my hands on some elephant dung for a premium price too. Wink I'll stay away from the B.S. though; seems there's already a saturated market full of TEFL recruiters and agencies who are knee deep in it.
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khmerhit



Joined: 31 May 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I read an article once about a man in Toronto, born in Liverpool, who made his millions by working in bars and cleaning jobs, all working class shift work and stuff, then he would hand his wages over to to his Philippino wife who was an accountant. He said that in his youth he would follow behind the horses in his neighbourhood in Liverpool, collect the manure, and sell it to his neighbours for their rose gardens. Hard work and enterprise! (I wouldnt no anythng about that mself.) Thats why I went to















C A M B O D I A
try it and see Cool
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saharastars



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol
Puts me in mind of the adage;
'where there is muck there is money'.
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Kalima Shahada



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Location: I live in a house, but my home is in the stable.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Laughing Yes, and logically speaking,

'where there is money, there is muck.'

So, excuse me while I muck out a few stalls...
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saharastars



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said.

You could always call it guinoo ( cant spell it), but I gues you'd need a couple of roosting fruit bats to officially call it that.

Oh and have fun Shocked
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Mia Xanthi



Joined: 13 Mar 2008
Posts: 955
Location: why is my heart still in the Middle East while the rest of me isn't?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the part of the advertisement that bothers me:

Quote:
You can get good compensation and benefits up to $4000 monthly salary including free accomodation and 2 way air-ticket.


Interesting modal there. I would prefer the use of "will" rather than "can" Sad
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Green Acres



Joined: 06 May 2009
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They will promise only this? It's not like you can do anything about it, should they conditionally give you less. It sounds like a dodgy or ganization, and given the nature of many HR departments for even the least dodgy of institutions, finding suitable/reliable answers will be difficult.

Surely, you can do better. Leave that one for the next guy, and next month's discussion, again.
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lazycomputerkids



Joined: 22 Sep 2009
Posts: 360
Location: Tabuk

PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Green Acres wrote:
and next month's discussion, again.

Has it even been a month?
"International Co. For Education & E-Learning" is the title of a thread still on the first page of this forum.
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omerta777



Joined: 06 Nov 2009
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shahada, youre not very friendly. Rude actually.

Find out how theyre going to bring you over. $3000-$4000 is a normal salary depending on expereience. if you come over on a govt visa your benefits are out the window, meaning you cant send money home, no bank acct, medical reimbursal. the only thing that is free are medications from the local pharmacy. if you come on a work visa (the medical report is frickin expensive) then you can get anything and everything want. Travel outside the country and back with no problem. Everything.
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