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Advice for family considering Singapore please

 
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roamingteacher



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:18 am    Post subject: Advice for family considering Singapore please Reply with quote

Hi there,

We are a teaching couple considering targeting Singapore for the next academic year. Some facts about us:

- I have a BA English (UK); CELTA; CELTYL; MA Applied Linguistics; PGCE English and Drama and a total of 9 years experience teaching EFL and secondary. I am mixed-race Irish-African and therefore not Caucasian. 32.
- Other half has degree from UK; CELTA; DELTA and about 12 years teaching EFL. Caucasian. 36.
- By next summer, we'll also have a 4-year-old and a 8-month-old baby

So....

1. Looking at the British Council (for example) it looks like we could earn decent salaries of at least 6k each (according to posts on this forum). Would that be OK to live comfortably with 2 kids and decent accommodation? To clarify 'decent' meaning in a green area, away from heavy traffic, pollution etc. If so, what areas would we be looking at?

2. Would we be able to afford a decent education for our youngest - not necessarily international school but at least 50% English-medium? If international school, what kind of fees? If other, same question?

3. Would we be able to easily find/afford good childcare for our youngest (even though one of us would probably work part-time)?

4. Racism issues for me with students and parents?

5. Any particularly decent international schools worth checking out? (Ones with happy staff, not overworked to breaking point - I am happy to put in the hours being a bit of a workaholic, but I don't want to be snowed under with pointless paperwork and extra duties not of my choice)

6. What's traffic like in Singapore and is a car (in)advisable / necessary?

7. Is it worth considering the MoE program?

Anything else that Singapore is notorious / famous for that I'm missing?

Thanks to anyone willing to respond publicly or privately.

RT Very Happy [/list]
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SydGirl2



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 3:56 pm    Post subject: Advice for a family considering Singapore Reply with quote

If you have teaching qualifications, then you should consider International Schools. I hear that The British Council is a good gig, but you may find that the teaching hours are not 9-3 or similar. It may involve evening/weekend work which would make childcare very difficult. If one of you could work at an International School and the other at The British Council then child minding could be done by one partner while the other works. Working part time may involve weekend work as this is often the peak time in places like The British Council. A lot of western expat families have a stay at home partner so child care is not an issue. Others employ foreign maids or helpers, not necessarily a good option. The MOE does not pay well and involves quite a heavy workload.
Buying or leasing a car is very expensive but luckily public transport is excellent and cheap. Rents are quite high. You would probably want a 2-3 bedroom apartment. This could be anything from $1500-$4000 per month depending on the location and whether you rent a condo or an HDB (government) flat. Unless you get a job in an International school, you will probably find that the rental allowance would not cover the rent.
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roamingteacher



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that info. Yes - we have already considered working for the BC, but one of us would do this only part-time so we could have the weekends free. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be much available when it comes to British international schools or perhaps I'm just not finding them?

Why do you say that nanny-type childcare is not necessarily a good option? Is this often problematic?

Any other advice much appreciated Very Happy
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SydGirl2



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:55 am    Post subject: Advice for family considering Singapore please Reply with quote

You shouldn't limit your search to British type International Schools in Singapore although there are quite a few that offer the British or British-type curriculum. I know of New Zealanders who teach at the French school. I have sent you a PM.
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Jaradcel



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Advice for family considering Singapore please Reply with quote

Hello, I know I'm a little late but as a Singaporean I thought I'd offer you some answers. Smile


roamingteacher wrote:
Hi there,

So....

1. Looking at the British Council (for example) it looks like we could earn decent salaries of at least 6k each (according to posts on this forum). Would that be OK to live comfortably with 2 kids and decent accommodation? To clarify 'decent' meaning in a green area, away from heavy traffic, pollution etc. If so, what areas would we be looking at?


You'd be looking at something expensive then I'm afraid, or out of the way. Punggol, Sengkang, Jurong East (Tuas island is industralized though and the smell may waft over) are probably your best bets to keep within budget.


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2. Would we be able to afford a decent education for our youngest - not necessarily international school but at least 50% English-medium? If international school, what kind of fees? If other, same question?


All schools in Singapore use English as their primary means of education, so you needn't worry. There's a "mother tongue" lesson taught, but if your children's primary languages are English and, say, I don't know, French, they can opt to take French outside of school (Or some schools may offer it as part of a specialized course)


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3. Would we be able to easily find/afford good childcare for our youngest (even though one of us would probably work part-time)


If you mean maids/regular housesitter, I believe they start from around SGD$800 a month and up. There's plenty of stories going back and forth on them (Many horror stories about children being abused by maids) but YMMV


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4. Racism issues for me with students and parents?


If you're intending to work in an Intl' school or BC, I heavily doubt it. Actually, you'll find very little racism in Singapore. Yes, we complain a hell of a lot about "them damn foreigners taking over our jobs" but for the most part, we get along with everyone else just fine.

In fact, you're likely to be slightly deified by virtue of skin color. Go figure.


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5. Any particularly decent international schools worth checking out? (Ones with happy staff, not overworked to breaking point - I am happy to put in the hours being a bit of a workaholic, but I don't want to be snowed under with pointless paperwork and extra duties not of my choice)


No clue, sorry.

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6. What's traffic like in Singapore and is a car (in)advisable / necessary?


Traffic can be heavy, but not horribly unbearable. You'll usually get from one end of the island to the other in around an hour, two hours tops in a car.

Public transportation is generally clean and very efficient. They're building more train tracks to link up different parts of the island, so it shouldn't be too much of a problem. Just expect work commute to be a little longer. For instance, when I was in university, going from my house in the northern part of Singapore all the way to the western part took me 1 1/2 hours every day (For a total of 3 hours commute time 5 days a week) If you think you can handle that, it shouldn't be a problem.

Oh, trains aren't horrendously overcrowded - though they can still get crowded at peak periods.


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7. Is it worth considering the MoE program?
No clue

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Anything else that Singapore is notorious / famous for that I'm missing?


Depends. We love food, we love shopping, we love to complain, and we love fines. You'll find plenty of things are banned/fined here - If you smoke, you'll be heavily taxed.

There's the new IR Casino/megamalls opening up this year, so that's something to see. If you're into nature, there's a bunch of nature walks, smaller islands including Pulau Ubin etc. Other islands like Batam are also pretty easily accessible.

Hope that helps!
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roamingteacher



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great of you to give that advice. We've decided to go to Malaysia this year, but no doubt your responses will help others, and we'll certainly bear them in mind for future moves.
Ta!
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Jaradcel



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 26, 2010 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which part? Keep in mind it's got the racial tension going on with the use of "Allah" as a word between the Christians and Muslims right now there.
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