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marg252
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 Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:13 pm Post subject: Can anyone suggest work for my boyfriend with no degree? |
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I've started seriously considering coming over and have the experience and credentials necessary to get an entry-level or slightly better teaching position. However, I would like to bring my boyfriend with me. He is also American, but does not have a degree and is not interested in teaching, anyway.
So, what else can ex-pats do in Tokyo to make money and (probably more importantly) get a work visa? Any ideas?
Thank you for any input! |
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Glenski
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An American in Japan without a degree is in pretty poor shape. The only way he can get a work visa is if he has enough experience to qualify for a specific field. For example, engineering work visa requires a degree or 10 years of related work experience.
He can work on a student visa (part-time) or a cultural activities visa (part-time) if he gets special permission.
Otherwise, if you are married to him and have a work visa yourself, you can sponsor him for a dependent visa (again, special permission gives him work rights part-time).
That's about it. Any other work he may do will be illegal and NOT advised! |
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Apsara
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Glenski is correct- with no degree, and without years of experience in a field where there is a demand for non-Japanese to fill positions, there is no way for him to get a work visa. Even if he wanted to teach English, with no degree that is also out of the question.
If you are not married, then a student visa is the only real option for him, and that would require him to have considerable funds, and also of course attend classes full time.
Otherwise he can visit you on a 90-day tourist visa, but will not be able to work. |
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flyer
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| Yes, it really is worth getting a degree if you want to work here for more than a few years |
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Apsara
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| flyer wrote: |
| Yes, it really is worth getting a degree if you want to work here for more than a few years |
Unless you're from a country with a WH visa agreement or married to a Japanese person, it's worth getting a degree if you want to work here at all... |
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womblingfree
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| Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:31 am Post subject: Re: Can anyone suggest work for my boyfriend with no degree? |
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| marg252 wrote: |
So, what else can ex-pats do in Tokyo to make money and (probably more importantly) get a work visa? Any ideas?
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Bar work
Stripper
'Host'
Rent-a-gaijin (includes 'acting', 'modeling')
Without a degree to get a working visa even that'll be difficult though. Having said that there are plenty of Africans, Iranians, Indians and Brazilians about in Tokyo. ey can't all have degrees or have spousal visas so there must be other options? |
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Glenski
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wombling,
Plenty of visa types to go around, and not all need degrees. Student visas. Cultural activities visa. Dependent visa. Temporary visitor visa. Internships, trainees, intracompany transfers, refugees...
I certainly wouldn't advise the jobs you posted either, but I am going to take them as tongue-in-cheek. |
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fat_chris
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:16 am Post subject: Re: Can anyone suggest work for my boyfriend with no degree? |
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| womblingfree wrote: |
Bar work
Stripper
'Host'
Rent-a-gaijin (includes 'acting', 'modeling')
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Roppongi-a-go-go!
This reminds me of all the foreigners working as touts for the various strip clubs and pubs around Roppongi Crossing...yikes.
Regards,
fat_chris |
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womblingfree
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Glenski wrote: |
I certainly wouldn't advise the jobs you posted either, but I am going to take them as tongue-in-cheek. |
I certainly wouldn't recommend them, but they're available.
Most of the people I know that have done those jobs were eikaiwa teachers either moonlighting or trying something new. Got a friend that's done everything from K2 fighting, bodyguard to J-Pop celebs to stripping.
Got another that's pursuing an 'acting' career in between working at Happy-Clappy in a Nappy Edutainment (forgot the actual schools name). Trouble is, acting for gaijin in Japan usually amounts to low-pay as a token westerner. Can be fun as an aside, but almost impossible to make a 'career' out of it.
That reminds me, I also had a group of friends, all girls, that were moonlighting from their eikaiwa to swim around topless in a giant fishbowl.  |
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Glenski
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| womblingfree wrote: |
| Most of the people I know that have done those jobs were eikaiwa teachers either moonlighting or trying something new. Got a friend that's done everything from K2 fighting, bodyguard to J-Pop celebs to stripping. |
So, all of those people already had a work visa or some other type of visa, right? Not the case with the person in question here. |
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marg252
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks everyone-especially Glenski. I keep checking this everyday in hope of an answer.
Regardless, I appreciate all of your input. |
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timothypfox
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| Why doesn't your boyfriend get a license such as pastry chef, hair styling or something like that? |
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Mr_Monkey
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He could do the pretend-priest-thing.
I hear the money in that is pretty good, but there are probably not enough hours to make it a sole job. |
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Glenski
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Look, people, the rules are simple. If he doesn't have several (usually 10) years of experience, a license now will do him no good.
Priest-thing still requires that he have a valid visa of some sort.
marg,
Just what sort of schooling or work experience DOES he have right now? |
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cornishmuppet
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| womblingfree wrote: |
| Got another that's pursuing an 'acting' career in between working at Happy-Clappy in a Nappy Edutainment (forgot the actual schools name). Trouble is, acting for gaijin in Japan usually amounts to low-pay as a token westerner. Can be fun as an aside, but almost impossible to make a 'career' out of it. |
Yeah I had a mate who was in a coffee ad. He was recruited by some people he met in a bar and I think he got paid 5000yen for it. Compare to a friend I had at uni who's budding actor friend was in an oven chips ad and got paid 4000 pounds. A slight different of 3975 pounds then... |
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