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Teaching in the middle East: Urgent help needed.
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Joined: 22 Oct 2009
Posts: 366
Location: Ch-Ch-Ch-Ch-China

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deicide wrote:
carmo85 wrote:
I really don't understand? I'm using this TEFL as a vehicle to see the world (which is a good thing to do as a youth). But please explain more if you feel that there is a strong point you need to make. It's all part of my research is to find opinions from all sides. Thank you.
TEFL is a trap and the first way they get you to bite is this 'see the world crap'. That is just a line but ultimately TEFL is a dead end, for if you ever want to get a real job somewhere after years of toiling in 'TEFL'...well, good luck, as your chances are next to none.

If you present your CV/resume for an office position and it reads TEFL experience in various countries, the only skill that may come in useful is that you can speak Spanish or Mandarin. But you will need some other skills to make the language skills useful.

Field Foreman + Spanish = manage construction workers
Executive Experience + Negotiation Ability + Mandarin = corporate liaison to Asia.

Teaching is a specialized skill. It has less than no bearing on the ability to work in an office and corporate environment.

To be really blunt:

An EFL teacher with an MA and 10 years experience and 3 languages is less employable than a 20 year old with no degree who is willing to learn the ropes of a given industry.

I am not discouraging you as others do. I think you need to know the cost/benefit ROI analysis before you decide to TEFL.

Just keep in mind that if you stop and return to your home country that you will be at the absolute bottom of the employability scale. Minimum wage jobs may be your only option, at best.
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Joined: 15 Nov 2009
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Location: Ireland

PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys. I think I will need to get onto my friend about her position. In the meantime, I have spoken to three other of my Irish friends have friends of there's who are over there and are in the exact same position as my friend. Just a general BA. They are also earning a substantial sum of money.One of them is in Doha and my friend is in a very remote part of the UAE. All of them are enjoying themselves. They're is a big Irish community out there and so they socialise amongst themselves and work hard at their jobs. I'm not disagreeing with any of you for your kind help, I am merely stating my confusion as to why this is happening???? I will let you know when I hear some more.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:16 pm    Post subject: EFL in Saudi - UAE - etc Reply with quote

I agree with many of the others that an having a Masters degree, teaching certificate, or 3+ years teaching experience would be ideal situation to obtain good teaching position in UAE. I am also a newbie to the ESL & international teaching field so I know how you are feeling.

I don't think it is wrong to be motivated by a desire to travel & pay off debts. However, just want to let you know that as a teacher (public school and now on college level) the education field can be very challenging and frustrating at times.

You best bet with a B.A. would be to look at teaching in SKorea or China. Maybe you could teach a couple of years there, get some valuable experience, and then work on obtaining a position in middle east. Otherwise you could just apply with degree you have and you may get responses.

I have a Masters in Education, a teaching license in mathematics, and teaching experience and am finding it difficult to find work in middle east.
I plan to use opportunity to save $$$, learn about middle east culture, and hopefully complete a doctorate in process.

Best wishes.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do it for a few years and you will be considered unemployable back home. Even if you have legit teaching qualifications, spending any time abroad TEFLing will render you unfit in the eyes of most employers to teach.

Unskilled minimum-wage jobs will be your lot, or a fortnightly cheque from the UBO.

If you are going to do this reconcile yourself to a life sentence as a TEFLer.

I know- it happened to me.

(Incidentally is the UBO still called that ? They have probably invented a newer euphemism since my times there. It is to the uniniated the "Unemployment Benefit Office" where unemployed Britons go to claim unemployment benefit)

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One can always make something up on your resume and begin from there. No one in the UK or USA is going to check your passport for visas! Teaching is very specialised and makes one unemployable for anything else - ESOL is looked down upon by 'regular teachers' and puts us at the bottom of the social ladder. Having been up higher on that ladder and found it wanting, I simply do not care at my age (4 8) and position in life. Everyone else can go to hell - it's my life.

You are 25. Just make up a job for the year or two you taught EFL. Anything small and innocuous. Have an older friend or relative be your reference, get their cellphone number, have your new employer call them and they back up your story.

Things I tell everyone who is young to do, before you cannot.

-Nightclub DJ
-Enlist in the Army
-Dive shack pro
-Tennis pro
-Golf pro
-Ski pro
-Work in an expensive NYC eatery and make big money

Work in Vail for a season. Ski, drink, wait tables. Be a bartender. DJ at a nightclub, follow your favourite jam band, back pack across Russia, ride your motorcycle around the world, EFL in Kazahkstan - you get the idea.

You likely won't be able to do this when you are 35 or 40. (That said, I am 48 very youthful in outlook and doing many of these things soon!...) You can do many things now due to your youth, energy, stamina and age. People want young people around - it makes them feel good, you remind them of their youth, and you are good looking compared to the average 45 year old.

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