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Mattingly

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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:35 am Post subject: North American teachers allowed to teach IELTS? |
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A large language school only has Brits and Australians (and probably New Zealeaners and Irish) teach IELTS.
Americans and Canadians are not allowed to teach IELTS.
Is this normal? Or, is this the exception? |
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bje
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:42 am Post subject: Re: North American teachers allowed to teach IELTS? |
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Mattingly wrote: |
A large language school only has Brits and Australians (and probably New Zealeaners and Irish) teach IELTS.
Americans and Canadians are not allowed to teach IELTS.
Is this normal? Or, is this the exception? |
In theory anyone can teach IELTS or become an examiner. I've done plenty of examining with those from any number of countries- not just those nationalities you mention. |
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ajc19810
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Could you post which school that is please?
A few of my students at the beginning of the year complained when they sat their IELTS exam @ BC and their examiner was a apparently an Indian. |
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Mattingly

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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:16 am Post subject: |
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ajc19810 wrote: |
Could you post which school that is please? |
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Personally, I don't agree with this policy. |
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bje
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:02 am Post subject: |
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ajc19810 wrote: |
Could you post which school that is please?
A few of my students at the beginning of the year complained when they sat their IELTS exam @ BC and their examiner was a apparently an Indian. |
I fail to see the problem. |
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ajc19810
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:26 am Post subject: |
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I fail to see the problem. |
He was Indian. They were going to Australia. They wanted an Australian.
They actually wrote a complaint letter. Poor guys, despite the racist tone of the letter I felt sorry for them. They were shocked when I told them that black fellas were there before the white fellas. |
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Green Acres
Joined: 06 May 2009 Posts: 260
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:44 am Post subject: |
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what does IELTs stand for? I went to that school and they told me I could teach IELTs there, but I would have to imitate Mr. Bean. I was like, gosh darnit fellows, I'm more of a Mick Jagger kind of ol' chap. See you around the polo club, ta ta. |
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Chris_Crossley

Joined: 26 Jun 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:48 am Post subject: Anti-non-white "prejudice" by East Asians |
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The attitude of these students may be considered by us more enlightened types to be both stereotypical and reprehensible, yet the fact is that they have a shockingly limited worldview - rather like the Chinese: they (at least these particular complainants) believe that (almost) all Australians are white, so they only want(ed) a white Australian to be their IELTS examiner. (I was an IELTS examiner once myself, so I should know.)
It's not really their fault: it's the way they've been brought up in what is, after all, a socialist country that largely confines itself mentally and politically to their own worldview which is just not considered to be anywhere as pluralistic as ours. That's just the way things are.
If and when they finally go to Australia, they will almost definitely want to confine themselves socially (after class hours, that is) to making contacts solely with people of their own culture who may harbour the same prejudiced views of non-whites as them - just like the Chinese - because they are so insecure as a people. Pluralism is something that a lot of people I have taught over the years (and I have been in China for just over eight years now) just can't handle - it's such an alien concept to them. They only go to Anglophone countries just for the prestige of gaining a degree or other qualification - making long-term friends with the natives doesn't even enter into it. |
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mickeyrex

Joined: 03 Sep 2004 Posts: 65
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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^Please do not confuse communism with socialism. |
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bje
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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mickeyrex wrote: |
^Please do not confuse communism with socialism. |
Seconded. |
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sg9015
Joined: 03 Sep 2009 Posts: 69 Location: Saigon
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:51 am Post subject: |
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Or modern day Communism with Communism! |
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deessell2
Joined: 11 Jun 2005 Posts: 132 Location: Under the sun
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:42 am Post subject: |
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Or State capitalism.
Back to the OP. Are you sure about this at L.L? I worked there for four years including a year and a half in the HR Department. This is news to me.
There are four different schools and I don't believe there is an "official" policy on this, unless things have changed in the last couple of months. |
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bje
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:14 am Post subject: |
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ajc19810 wrote: |
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I fail to see the problem. |
He was Indian. They were going to Australia. They wanted an Australian.
They actually wrote a complaint letter. Poor guys, despite the racist tone of the letter I felt sorry for them. They were shocked when I told them that black fellas were there before the white fellas. |
The 'problem' resides not in the nationality of the examiner, but in the laughable expectation that one can have their examiner 'to order', like cheese and extra ketchup on your burger. Cambridge would have fallen about laughing upon receipt of this 'complaint' letter. |
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ajc19810
Joined: 22 May 2008 Posts: 214
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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The 'problem' resides not in the nationality of the examiner |
No, I'm pretty sure their problem was that he was black
So happy not to teach IELTS anymore. far too stressful. Give me beginner adult classes or primary school student classes anyday of the week.
Although, it was fun discussing issues such as the environment and various social issues with the viets. |
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