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mhard1
Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 54 Location: Japan
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:26 pm Post subject: Tokyo (living and working in) |
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| Hey guys. I am currently working in a satellite city to Tokyo, about 1.5 hours away. I am considering in the future to move to and work in Tokyo. However, every time i visit there for a weekend, I leave feeling overwhelmed by the pace. My question then is, anyone who has or currently works in Tokyo, especially if you worked in a smaller area before that, did you feel that same overwhelmed feeling. If so, how long did it take you to get used to it? |
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gaijinalways
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2279
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:59 am Post subject: |
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It didn't take much time as even though I grew up in suburbs, I lived in Hong Kong and Taipei before moving here. Tokyo is slow compared to HK (in HK most people run, not just hurry like Tokyo). Taipei is chaotic (or at least was when I ws living there, pre-subway with all the construction going on, part of the elevated line going to the zoo was opened just before I left), so the pace there was faster in a sense (or seemed like it).
As to living in a smaller area, yes much. At one time I was living in a town of 1200, so It was quite a bit smaller than Tokyo . Getting used to the transport system and the fact that you are rarely alone for long in most areas of the city regardless of the time takes some getting used to. But the pace, at least for me, was adjusting to people moving slower than I was at the time I arrived. I have slowed down since then due to a combo called marriage and middle age , so now it seems okay. |
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mitsui
Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 1562 Location: Kawasaki
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Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:35 am Post subject: |
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after working here for 9 years I am still not used to it.
I have a Japanese wife, and most jobs are around Tokyo. |
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pnksweater
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 173 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| I was there for 2.5 years, and while it stopped being overwhelming after a few weeks, I still loathed the crowded trains, umbrella pokes in the eyes and cigarette burns in my clothes. It's the main reason I'm waffling on reapplying to my old uni job. |
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Imseriouslylost
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 123 Location: Tokyo
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:31 am Post subject: Re: Tokyo (living and working in) |
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| mhard1 wrote: |
| Hey guys. I am currently working in a satellite city to Tokyo, about 1.5 hours away. I am considering in the future to move to and work in Tokyo. However, every time i visit there for a weekend, I leave feeling overwhelmed by the pace. My question then is, anyone who has or currently works in Tokyo, especially if you worked in a smaller area before that, did you feel that same overwhelmed feeling. If so, how long did it take you to get used to it? |
I've lived in Seoul for awhile and spent time in Tokyo and Shanghai. Between the three, I'd say Tokyo was the least "overwhelming." Shanghai being the most.
When I first lived in Seoul I was a bit terrified. These days, not at all. Its very, very annoying (for reasons more related to cultural differences than big city stuff) but it isn't overwhelming anymore. It actually feels small and backwards a lot of the time which is why I'm looking forward to some Tokyo-style sophistication, class and manners (ie: not walking through spit and phelgm, being glared at or seeing people screaming at each other all the time).
Anyway, after a few weeks in Tokyo it won't be overwhelming and you'll be very comfortable. Many things in life are relative. Once you get a feeling for how the city flows, it will start being your friend.
Cheers! |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 1546 Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:35 am Post subject: Re: Tokyo (living and working in) |
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| Imseriouslylost wrote: |
I've lived in Seoul for awhile and spent time in Tokyo and Shanghai. Between the three, I'd say Tokyo was the least "overwhelming." Shanghai being the most. |
That's because Shanghai, Beijing and Guangzhou are the poop-shoots of China and possibly the whole of E.Asia. They are hideous places and even worse if you don't look Asian. When the locals see a foreign face they see easy-money and will use every trick they know to rob them blind. I avoid those cities like the plague unless a visit is absolutely necessary... I definately wouldn't compare Shanghai to Tokyo. |
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Imseriouslylost
Joined: 09 Nov 2009 Posts: 123 Location: Tokyo
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Tokyo (living and working in) |
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| seklarwia wrote: |
| Imseriouslylost wrote: |
I've lived in Seoul for awhile and spent time in Tokyo and Shanghai. Between the three, I'd say Tokyo was the least "overwhelming." Shanghai being the most. |
That's because Shanghai, Beijing and Guangzhou are the poop-shoots of China and possibly the whole of E.Asia. They are hideous places and even worse if you don't look Asian. When the locals see a foreign face they see easy-money and will use every trick they know to rob them blind. I avoid those cities like the plague unless a visit is absolutely necessary... I definately wouldn't compare Shanghai to Tokyo. |
I didn't hate Shanghai, it was kind of like being in The Twilight Zone for a week. The locals aren't after your cash either as they're already rich. The people who are after your crash are the "immigrants" (people from poorer parts of China) that loiter in touristy areas and try to con you. I was conned once (on my first day) and had to avoid thirty-forty con artists plus a few pickpockets afterward. |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 1546 Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:38 am Post subject: |
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When I say locals, I mean Chinese who are living and working there.
There are people from the poorer parts in any decent size cities in China. My city had more than a few, many of whom set up in what my students called 'the village', which was a favela of sorts across from my uni on the eastern outskirts. It was a great place to hang out with the locals/immigrants, eat food that would probably give you runs for the week and drink huangjo until the wee hours. They were not the criminals you find in the Shanghai. And when I arrived Beijing, the city was filled with construction workers from poorer areas who were living on bridges, on roadsides, etc. The campus were I was residing was being revamped, because being just down road from the Birds Nest and olympic pool it was going to be housing some of the reps. The workers were living outside our apartments and sleeping on sheets of cardboard... they were great guys that we enjoyed beers with. It wasn't the people from poorer parts that I was having issues with most of the time even in the big cities.
I wasn't in the touristy bits of Shanghai or anywhere alone the river fronts much. I was there for business purposes. And I spent most of my time fighting with shop owners, threatening to take taxi receipts to the police, etc each time I was there. I'd never been pick pocketed or handed any funny money, thankfully. |
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