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How much do you smoke?
I never smoke. Smoking stinks. Lung cancer is a stupid way to die.
59%
 59%  [ 32 ]
I smoke about a pack per month, only for special occasions.
16%
 16%  [ 9 ]
I smoke a pack per day, no apologies.
12%
 12%  [ 7 ]
I chainsmoke constantly and blow smoke in nonsmokers faces and I will never die because god told me so, NO APOLOGIES!!!
11%
 11%  [ 6 ]
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James Hetfield



Joined: 24 Feb 2007
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Location: Los Angeles

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:47 am    Post subject: How much do you and your students smoke? Reply with quote

Please take poll and post comment:

WHAT CITY DO YOU TEACH IN? URBAN OR RURAL AREA?
How much do your students smoke?
Most men smoke in your region? Females too?
Is there a NO-smoking health trend in your region?
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Guy Courchesne



Joined: 10 Mar 2003
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Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I smoke, but much less these days than when I first came to Mexico. I'd say about as many Mexicans smoke as Americans or Canadians do, broken down evenly between men and women.

Mexico City enacted a law this year banning smoking in public places, including restaurants, bars, and anywhere else. Barbaric if you ask me. But, such are the times. At least it's not like my hometown where you smoke outside the bar in -40C weather.
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GambateBingBangBOOM



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't smoke. It's not healthy, and I am sort of a marital arts guy (but not one of the 'I live to FIGHT!!!!' kind, more of the Mr Miyagi kind) so it's just something I don't do (I don't drink a whole lot either). My students are in high school so they don't smoke (or hopefully they don't smoke). This is Japan, so a LOT of adults smoke- probably more than half, although less now than in the past.

I'm now in an urban area. In the past I've been in semi-rural and rural areas of Japan as well. Smoking is common thoughout. The older the person, the odder it would be if they didn't smoke.

There are no smoking areas and quit smoking campaigns out here.
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Justin Trullinger



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
I am sort of a marital arts guy


Your wife must be happy bout that...

Wink


Justin
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MO39



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
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Location: El ombligo de la Rep�blica Mexicana

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy Courchesne wrote:

Mexico City enacted a law this year banning smoking in public places, including restaurants, bars, and anywhere else. Barbaric if you ask me.


I don't think the new Mexico City law is barbaric, au contraire, mon frere! Now when I get home after spending time at my favorite jazz club, my clothes and hair don't reek of second-hand smoke. Maybe the new laws will encourage you to cut down... Very Happy
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Sonnet



Joined: 10 Mar 2004
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Location: South of the river

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm what you'd call a social smoker, used to be a chainsmoker. Living in urban Germany & China helped to cultivate that habit.

Where I am now (small, modern Chinese city), the vast majority of men over 25 smoke. A surprising amount of the younger guys don't smoke (or even drink), and good girls don't smoke - guess that's an Asia-wide thing, though. There are more anti-smoking laws here than you'd believe possible in China: still an awful lot less dictatorial than those back home, though!
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Shonai Ben



Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to smoke but I quit 2 years ago........
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Mike_2007



Joined: 24 Apr 2007
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Location: Bucharest, Romania

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also gave up two years ago.

- WHAT CITY DO YOU TEACH IN? URBAN OR RURAL AREA?
Bucharest, Romania. Very urban.

- How much do your students smoke?
Maybe 25% smoke to some extent.

- Most men smoke in your region? Females too?
Don't know the stats but a lot of men smoke here and it's extremely common among women too.

- Is there a NO-smoking health trend in your region?
You can still smoke pretty much everywhere. Restaurants and bars are supposed to have a no-smoking area. Smoking in offices generally not allowed, except in the especially-provided areas. No smoking on trains now. As a result I think younger people are smoking less.
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rusmeister



Joined: 15 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MO39 wrote:
Guy Courchesne wrote:

Mexico City enacted a law this year banning smoking in public places, including restaurants, bars, and anywhere else. Barbaric if you ask me.


I don't think the new Mexico City law is barbaric, au contraire, mon frere! Now when I get home after spending time at my favorite jazz club, my clothes and hair don't reek of second-hand smoke. Maybe the new laws will encourage you to cut down... Very Happy


I think that Guy is right in that there ought to be places where men who smoke can congregate. There are all kinds of smoke and smokers. Even if cigarettes predominate, there are pipes, cigars, hookahs... A blanket ban that does not allow for that is kind of like the abolishment of the old British pub - which really was a public house - a place for men to gather socially...before they turned them into noisome places filled with TV's and men sitting and drinking alone or with strangers.

Understand non-smokers who want to have smoke-free options - I just think the understanding ought to go both ways. I smoke a pipe - several times a month. Suburban/semi-urban.
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Moore



Joined: 25 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a smoker, which is lucky as here in Spain it's almost obligatory to smoke. A lot of my students don't consider themselves smokers but do smoke a bit when they go out (which is a lot). Cigarettes are very cheap here and there are almost no restrictions about smoking apart from not being allowed to smoke inside offices, public buildings and public transport.

You're even allowed to smoke at the outdoor municipal swimming pools here (along with serving beer). The Prime minister, Mr Zapatero is a heavy smoker of dark tobacco and when his aides claimed that he shouldn't smoke during their meetings he countered he was in his offical residence and was therefore smoking at home, so it's probably not going to be legislated against in the near future.
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Madame J



Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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Location: Oxford, United Kingdom

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rusmeister wrote:
MO39 wrote:
Guy Courchesne wrote:

Mexico City enacted a law this year banning smoking in public places, including restaurants, bars, and anywhere else. Barbaric if you ask me.


I don't think the new Mexico City law is barbaric, au contraire, mon frere! Now when I get home after spending time at my favorite jazz club, my clothes and hair don't reek of second-hand smoke. Maybe the new laws will encourage you to cut down... Very Happy


I think that Guy is right in that there ought to be places where men who smoke can congregate. There are all kinds of smoke and smokers. Even if cigarettes predominate, there are pipes, cigars, hookahs... A blanket ban that does not allow for that is kind of like the abolishment of the old British pub - which really was a public house - a place for men to gather socially...before they turned them into noisome places filled with TV's and men sitting and drinking alone or with strangers.

Understand non-smokers who want to have smoke-free options - I just think the understanding ought to go both ways. I smoke a pipe - several times a month. Suburban/semi-urban.


Just men, eh? Wink

I think the smoking ban in the UK has been the best development here of the past few years. So encouraging to see so many European countries also enforcing a ban. If people who smoke want to congregate, then how about someone's house? I understand the fact that that's less convenient, but I'd prioritise public health any day. I thought allowing a minority of people here to ruin the air quality for everyone was the truly barbaric law. Sorry.
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James Hetfield



Joined: 24 Feb 2007
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Location: Los Angeles

PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taipei Taiwan passed California antismoking laws when I taught there in 1997-2000. Taxi drivers ignored law. In restaurants it made a huge difference. Maybe 80% Taiwanese men smoke, but now the police don't blow smoke in your face when you go to renew your visa. Mad

Buenos Aires Argentina also passed smoking laws. Lived there this year. No smoking inside internet cafes or restaurants. Maybe 80% of Portenos smoke. 40% of smokers are female: In Buenos Aires the chicks blow smoke in your face as you stand at the intersection waiting for the green light, no apologies. Confused

In Asia women are not supposed to smoke because they are the breeders, so smoking is a sign of non-breeders, ie sluts. Asian men think smoking is macho. Mild 7 adverts market smokers not as Marlboro cowboys but as rugged fishermen, reeling in the big one in some wilderness of impossibly clean blue water and sky. Since Asian men have no body hair, no facial hair and no muscles, smoking is the one thing that sets them apart from the chicks! Wink

In white trash towns along the US West Coast where I lived for years, 95% of every white man, woman and child chainsmokes.... White teenage girls smoke at every busstop. Many American white teens are obnoxious belligerent drunk meth-tweakers.... Young and old American white trash smoke and drink like Siberian border guards. Evil or Very Mad

I moved to Los Angeles and was shocked to find LA Latinos didn't smoke at all. Really, I saw almost no one light up. Them illegal aliens refuse to blow $5 of their very hard-earned pay for a pack of smokes. California tax is so high, each pack costs about $5. LA Latinos only make about $10 per hour. Tax policy makes a huge difference: LA Latinos now smoke and drink MUCH LESS than whites. !SALUD! Cool
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MO39



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Madame J wrote:


....I'd prioritise public health any day. I thought allowing a minority of people here to ruin the air quality for everyone was the truly barbaric law. Sorry.


Madame J, don't be sorry for expressing your point of view, which is also mine! In the US, the smoking minority numbers about 25% of the population these days. I can see no reason why this minority should endanger the health of the overwhelming majority of those who choose not to smoke; study after study has proven how harmful secondhand smoke is to non-smokers.
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rusmeister



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Location: Russia

PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Madame J wrote:
rusmeister wrote:
MO39 wrote:
Guy Courchesne wrote:

Mexico City enacted a law this year banning smoking in public places, including restaurants, bars, and anywhere else. Barbaric if you ask me.


I don't think the new Mexico City law is barbaric, au contraire, mon frere! Now when I get home after spending time at my favorite jazz club, my clothes and hair don't reek of second-hand smoke. Maybe the new laws will encourage you to cut down... Very Happy


I think that Guy is right in that there ought to be places where men who smoke can congregate. There are all kinds of smoke and smokers. Even if cigarettes predominate, there are pipes, cigars, hookahs... A blanket ban that does not allow for that is kind of like the abolishment of the old British pub - which really was a public house - a place for men to gather socially...before they turned them into noisome places filled with TV's and men sitting and drinking alone or with strangers.

Understand non-smokers who want to have smoke-free options - I just think the understanding ought to go both ways. I smoke a pipe - several times a month. Suburban/semi-urban.


Just men, eh? Wink

I think the smoking ban in the UK has been the best development here of the past few years. So encouraging to see so many European countries also enforcing a ban. If people who smoke want to congregate, then how about someone's house? I understand the fact that that's less convenient, but I'd prioritise public health any day. I thought allowing a minority of people here to ruin the air quality for everyone was the truly barbaric law. Sorry.

Buty we already allow people to ruin the quality of public air with automobiles. We allow big industries to do it from their factories. It looks like chasing after mice and not seeing the elephants.

Oh, yeah - I do believe that both men and women need time away from each other - to be able to congregate in sex-exclusive settings, so our ancestors did have something right on that count that we seem to have lost and forgotten.
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johnnyenglishteacher



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only smoke when somebody sets me on fire. Very Happy
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