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milkweedma



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:53 am    Post subject: Jilin Changchun Science University Reply with quote

Is anyone currently working or has worked in the past for this Uni in Changchun?
Are they good to work for re: contract adhesion etc etc?
Networkesl are offering it at 4500 RMB PM for 18 periods a week.
Can't find anything written about them so far here on Daves.
cheers.
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cmknight



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I met a couple of their FT's at the new KFC here. The Changchun Science and Technology University is right next door to Changchun University, where I am. They seem to be pretty happy with things there. The subway is right across the road, and it's only a 5 minute walk to KFC. Walmart is about 10 minutes by bus (on the same street, actually). 4500 RMB is standard here for 18 hours.
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El Macho



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cmknight wrote:
The subway is right across the road
When did Changchun get a subway system?

4500 can go a long way in Changchun. The cost of living is quite low. That being said, why not contact the university yourself and see if you can get �5000?
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cmknight



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The subway has been here for a couple of years, now. You can take it right from the main train station. It goes right by Changchun Science and technology University and Changchun University. As for getting 5000 RMB, you have to be doing over 20 classes per week. That's about standard between the two uni's. Don't know about others, though. A "class" consists of one 45 minute lesson. There are two "classes" with a 20-minute break in between for each "lesson" (For the OP's info).
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Moon Over Parma



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cmknight wrote:
The subway has been here for a couple of years, now. You can take it right from the main train station. It goes right by Changchun Science and technology University and Changchun University. As for getting 5000 RMB, you have to be doing over 20 classes per week. That's about standard between the two uni's. Don't know about others, though. A "class" consists of one 45 minute lesson. There are two "classes" with a 20-minute break in between for each "lesson" (For the OP's info).


I believe someone has crossed their wires.

THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO SUBWAY IN CHANGCHUN. By any accurate definition of a "subway," Changchun does not, has never had, nor will probably ever have a subway system.

There is a convenient bus system, a trolley, a train station, and a light rail system that is an elevated train.

I believe "cmknight" refers to the "chinguai," light rail system, which is basically two cars that can hold about 100 people, but often gets crammed to the gills with 200 people most times on most days when the universities are in session. It runs maybe until 9pm, depending on the time of the year, if you are lucky. It can take well over an hour to get from where the OP's job offer will be, to the train station in the city proper. Changchun is not as cheap as people claim. In fact, any job paying under 5K RMB a month for more than 14 hours a week is one to reconsider. Nightlife in Changchun was abysmal. While there were options, it's basically down to one shitty club called the Mayflower, and foreigners were and continue to be nickeled and dimed and literally boxed into a space the size of two jail cells. The availability of foreign goods when you need them in Changchun was fine and I hear it continues to improve. There were good restaurants there, especially in the Tonzhi Jie-Guilin Lu area. Expat community was tight, but there were a lot of early twenty-something stoners and losers who brought all of their buddies with them in 2008 and it was starting to get very high school cliquey when I left. Lots of gossip and back stabbing: the signs of boredom and nothing to do. The number of actual native speakers teaching English there was dropping and friends still living there tell me it's getting smaller. this may explain why the money you are being offered is pretty shitty, when the national average is now 5-6K. Despite a dubious group calling themselves, "Changchun Friends," there really wasn't much going on there. Extra work there was easy to come by. Taxis were about 5RMB at flag fall, but the city is more expansive than you would think and you can quickly end up pissing away money using them to get everywhere.

Unless you want to study Mandarin, I'd recommend waiting for opportunities to open up in nearby Shandong, Liaoning or Harbin. Better salaries, financial opportunities and schools are located in those provinces.
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cmknight



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stand corrected. Yes, I was referring to the Light Rail Transit system (But really ... did you have to shout?)

And yes, there "is" a Subway. The restaurant, that is. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Chris_Crossley



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:25 am    Post subject: No Subway in Wuhan, though! Reply with quote

cmknight wrote:
(..) there "is" a Subway. The restaurant, that is.


I've yet to see one in Wuhan!
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Moon Over Parma



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cmknight wrote:

And yes, there "is" a Subway. The restaurant, that is. Laughing Laughing Laughing


I just got back from attending a wedding in Changchun. Are you referring to the one that has been boarded up off of Tongzhie jie? I talked to the business next door and it has been closed since the summer. I guess there is no form of a subway, be it literal or figurative, in Changchun anymore! The nightlife there is worse than when I lived there. It appears like the EFL market there is glutted with non-native speakers who can barely warble the language; working for peanuts. It has gone to shit.
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cmknight



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moon Over Parma wrote:
cmknight wrote:

And yes, there "is" a Subway. The restaurant, that is. Laughing Laughing Laughing


I just got back from attending a wedding in Changchun. Are you referring to the one that has been boarded up off of Tongzhie jie? I talked to the business next door and it has been closed since the summer. I guess there is no form of a subway, be it literal or figurative, in Changchun anymore! The nightlife there is worse than when I lived there. It appears like the EFL market there is glutted with non-native speakers who can barely warble the language; working for peanuts. It has gone to shit.



Really??? It HAS been a while since I've been downtown. If this snow lets up this weekend, I'll have to go down and check it out. If it's the same one ...

Anyone know if the Wendy's in Shenyang is still around?
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