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Linguaphone is finished

 
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Sonnibarger



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:41 am    Post subject: Linguaphone is finished Reply with quote

http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/?id=417705&type=Metro

wuhan branch closed its doors a few days ago.. teachers all look to be out final pay/flight... shame... i know they have a bad name is some cities but linguaphone wuhan is about the best mill in town
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Sonnibarger



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh to add.. its china wide not just Wuhan... tho i heard NDI is buying a few ling schools in GZ/SH
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Moon Over Parma



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Memories of NOVA Japan immediately come to mind. Someone wasn't minding the books. I wonder how many FTs nationwide are now jobless because of this.
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Jiordano



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a shame. They were a good outfit.
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The Ever-changing Cleric



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:39 am    Post subject: Re: Linguaphone is finished Reply with quote

Sonnibarger wrote:
http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/?id=417705&type=Metro

wuhan branch closed its doors a few days ago.. teachers all look to be out final pay/flight... shame... i know they have a bad name is some cities but linguaphone wuhan is about the best mill in town

worse than being out final pay/flight is suddenly being out of work. i know a quite a few people who'd be in the hurt locker if their school closed all of a sudden since they live paycheque to paycheque. Lesson - have some emergency savings.

what's really sad here is that the higher ups probably knew for some time that the school/branch/chain was going to shut down, yet they continued to take money from students.
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Boxcar Johnny



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Linguaphone is finished Reply with quote

The Ever-changing Cleric wrote:
Sonnibarger wrote:
http://www.shanghaidaily.com/article/?id=417705&type=Metro

wuhan branch closed its doors a few days ago.. teachers all look to be out final pay/flight... shame... i know they have a bad name is some cities but linguaphone wuhan is about the best mill in town

worse than being out final pay/flight is suddenly being out of work. i know a quite a few people who'd be in the hurt locker if their school closed all of a sudden since they live paycheque to paycheque. Lesson - have some emergency savings.

what's really sad here is that the higher ups probably knew for some time that the school/branch/chain was going to shut down, yet they continued to take money from students.


Thanks for the info on Linguaphone, by all.

Yes, I am quite sure the higher-ups knew this was coming. It doesn't happen overnight.

Ignorant question:

Why? Why did Linguaphone go bust?

Declining enrollments? Competition? Slow economy?

I'm a China Neo-phyte, please forgive me.
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Sonnibarger



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the wuhan branch was doing well... they were looking for new ft/pt teachers even a few weeks ago.. had more students than they could handle... i heard the SH/GZ branches were hurting tho.. and all the profit from wuhan was getting dumped into the corporate blackhole...
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sharpe88



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This happened a few weeks ago to Real Life English, a local franchise

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/metro/2009-10/26/content_8846672.htm
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Moon Over Parma



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sharpe88 wrote:
This happened a few weeks ago to Real Life English, a local franchise

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/metro/2009-10/26/content_8846672.htm


Note the foreign stooge being quoted in the paper and forced to deal with the locals who were ripped off, while the owner is conveniently tucked way in Europe.
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Hansen



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a brief stint with "Crazy English" a few years ago. The registration room was full of mobster types who could not speak a word of English. The school director spoke English at a level which required a translator to be understood.

Nearly all the people who could speak English were local university students hired for the summer. I was recruited in a park by a guy with decent English skills. I never saw him around the school, however.

It is difficult to determine whether any franchise is actually a franchise. Any criminal can put up a sign, copy some material, hire some university students, rent classroom space, pay the right people, and go into business. They could do this with a view to simply disappear when their income goal is reached.

Even legitimate "government" schools from time to time, must have their legitimacy demonstrated. In the past, individuals opened schools, called them government schools, and operated without difficulty. They were more or less "grandfathered" into the bureaucracy. Some are not really connected to the government.

Depending on who you are dealing with, collecting legitimate debts, from people who have the money to repay the debt, can be difficult. It may require expensive dinners, prostitutes, liquor, whatever, to get the money rightfully owed.

FTs should avoid any startup training center, any place which can not provide a "Z" visa or RP, or any place which does not pay promptly within 30 days of service initiated. After 30 days, walk away. Take your loss, move on. You may get paid, you may not. Why gamble with someone who has the business ethics of a rattlesnake?
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