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The weight of the DELTA

 
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hedge12



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Location: HCMC, VN
PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:47 pm    Post subject: The weight of the DELTA Reply with quote
Where is it possible to get a job with a DELTA but without a University Degree? I was recently reading an article that stated that the DELTA may appeal to those who wish to "teach in a country that requires a Degree, but don't have one."

Would one be able to find legal emploment in the EU with just a DELTA and no Degree? What about other places? China? Southeast asia? Turkey? Africa? etc.

I know this has been touched on a bit in some of the area specific forums, but I'm hoping we can kind of generate a list of sorts.

Thanks.
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jpvanderwerf2001



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Your location says Vietnam; if I'm not mistaken, there's a DELTA course right there in HCMC. Check that out.
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Chris_Crossley



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 2:44 am    Post subject: Re: The weight of the DELTA Reply with quote
hedge12 wrote:
Would one be able to find legal employment in the EU with just a DELTA and no Degree?


Legal employment in the E.U. is always open to anyone holding an E.U. passport. If one does not hold one, then the doors to employment within the E.U. are virtually shut, since employers in Europe can readily count upon a pool of about 65 million native-speakers of English from the U.K. and the Republic of Ireland!

Unless there is a perceived need to hire native-speakers holding passports from countries outside the E.U., employers simply do not feel the need to go through the rigmarole, not to mention the expense, of applying to local or national government for special papers to hire nationals of countries outside the E.U.

On the other hand, British and Irish people have the right to work in any of the other 25 E.U. countries without the need for special papers, such is the policy of free movement of labour within the E.U.

hedge12 wrote:
What about other places? China? Southeast asia? Turkey? Africa? etc.


I wouldn't think there'd be any problem with them, but stating that a particular country does or does not necessarily employ "degree-less" DELTA holders is unhelpful. It would be far better to check with individual employers if they would be prepared to do this.

I can only really speak about China, but I would think that you might have a good chance of being employed if you have a DELTA, although some private chain language schools just might insist that you also have a university or college degree.

A few years ago, an expatriate from England landed the top spot in a private chain language school organization as the "senior academic operations manager" for China working from Head Office in Shanghai, only to be demoted after some time when it was discovered, to the embarrassment of the powers-that-be, that he, of all people, did not actually have a degree when the organization was insisting in its revised employment/recruitment policy for expatriate teachers at grass-roots level that all new entrants had to possess a university degree! His position therefore was rendered totally untenable.
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jivany



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Dedicated



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:38 pm    Post subject: DELTA Reply with quote
As a DELTA trainer at a London centre, it is very unusual(almost unheard of) for us to accept somebody without a degree. However, it is at the centre's discretion. You must have substantial experience of TESOL at different levels and in different contexts, which is a minimum of 2 years, or 1,200 hours of teaching to adults.

You need to already hold an initial teaching qualification (such as the CELTA or PGCE)

A DELTA is accredited at level 7 in the NQF (National Qualifications Framework) and gives exemption to some MA modules, so hence the need for a first degree.

You cannot teach in a state primary or secondary school in the UK with only a DELTA - you need to have formal teaching qualifications, such as the PGCE. I think this would apply all across the EU.
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