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| What type of visa do you have while working in KSA? |
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| b. Government Visa |
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| c. Business Visa |
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| d. Other |
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| e. I don't have a clue! |
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tacomaboywa
Joined: 18 Jan 2009
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Location: The Magic Kingdom
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 Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 8:21 pm Post subject: Teaching in KSA on a [����] Visa |
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As we all know that the only legal way to work in KSA is with an Employment Visa. However, with the recent rise in recruiters and demand for EFL teachers there are an increasing number of teachers knowingly and unknowingly working in KSA on Business or Government Visas.
What visa do you have?
If you are on a Business or Government Visa, how are things working out?
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omerta777
Joined: 06 Nov 2009
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ha ha ha dont get me started with the visa situation. there are 100 of us esl teachers working for EDEX on a govt visa. A lot of us didnt know the disadvantages of a govt visa: no checking acct, need a person with an iqama to send money home, cant travel to other countries and come back, no rights whatsoever. And since were here illegally our company is taking their sweet time in paying us since they think we cant take legal action with the ministery of higher education.
There is some serious issues going on with our company EDEX and their incompetence with paying u son time.
Dont come on a govt visa if you want to get paid on time and have legal rights as an expat teacher |
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sr
Joined: 05 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2009 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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Omerta777 you said it all in a nut shell.  |
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Cleopatra
Joined: 28 Jun 2003
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Location: Tuamago Archipelago
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 6:37 am Post subject: |
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| A lot of us didnt know the disadvantages of a govt visa |
You mustn't be a regular on DAve's then. The disadvantages of coming to KSA on anything other than a full employment visa have been pointed out again and again. |
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scot47
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Come and work here ONLY on a legitimate visa that allows employment. Anything else is ILLEGAL and will lead to GRIEF and SORROW. |
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tacomaboywa
Joined: 18 Jan 2009
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Location: The Magic Kingdom
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| Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| scot47 wrote: |
| Come and work here ONLY on a legitimate visa that allows employment. Anything else is ILLEGAL and will lead to GRIEF and SORROW. |
I hope you ALL listen!
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sr
Joined: 05 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Tacomaboywa,
I just found M Trading advertising on seriousteachers.com, so I asked them if it was M Trading as they did not advertise their name or location. Seriousteachers.com just replied and stated that it was M Trading, so I advised them of what was going on, and to type M Trading on Google and to see the results. |
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tacomaboywa
Joined: 18 Jan 2009
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Location: The Magic Kingdom
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| Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| sr wrote: |
Tacomaboywa,
I just found M Trading advertising on seriousteachers.com, so I asked them if it was M Trading as they did not advertise their name or location. Seriousteachers.com just replied and stated that it was M Trading, so I advised them of what was going on, and to type M Trading on Google and to see the results. |
Yeah, there are several ads out there. I saw that one on seriousteachers.com too. They use a green graphic that says, "Saudi Recruiters".
Anyone reading this, just make sure you do some research on any potential employer.
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Nochasauras
Joined: 16 May 2009
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Location: jubail, KSA
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Dont come on a govt visa if you want to get paid on time and have legal rights as an expat teacher |
i have an employment visa/iqama and i work for a private school and i still dont get paid on time, payday is a very interpretive 'before the end of the first week of the gregorian calendar" so dont think ur troubles will end with an iqama. however i do enjoy the benefits of a bank account and access to labor courts should i need them |
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tacomaboywa
Joined: 18 Jan 2009
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It is still better to come to KSA on an Employment Visa instead of a Government / Business Visit Visa. At least it will be legal and you will have some legal rights. When you're here on one of those visit visas you have very few rights. It is fair to say that your odds are much greater to get into trouble when you come here on a visit visa and try to work.
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Griff-James 2
Joined: 11 Jan 2010
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How many lives has TEFLing destroyed?
Naive recently graduated idealistic/lazy kids setting out to see the world, and their life raft from a life of poverty twenty years later is working in KSA.
It is a pitcher plant - when your in it, it's hard to escape. |
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scot47
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It is not as bleak as all that. Certainly better than living on benefit in UK, or eking out an existence there in a low-paid job. Have you seen the earnings of people TEFLing in Britain ?
What about life teaching in a state school in a deprived area in the UK ?
I will take a job TEFLing in Saudi rather than that, provided I have some leeway in choosing my masters. |
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BillCowher
Joined: 21 Aug 2009
Posts: 131
Location: Up in the air!!!
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| Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 5:19 am Post subject: Education Experts, Najran, Skyline Global |
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| omerta777 wrote: |
ha ha ha dont get me started with the visa situation. there are 100 of us esl teachers working for EDEX on a govt visa. A lot of us didnt know the disadvantages of a govt visa: no checking acct, need a person with an iqama to send money home, cant travel to other countries and come back, no rights whatsoever. And since were here illegally our company is taking their sweet time in paying us since they think we cant take legal action with the ministery of higher education.
There is some serious issues going on with our company EDEX and their incompetence with paying u son time.
Dont come on a govt visa if you want to get paid on time and have legal rights as an expat teacher |
I recently got fired from EdEx for complaining about that late pay. Another person also got fired But they got all the pay due because they were prepared to stay & force their hand. They even got the contracted 30 days pay due after notice of the position being canceled. That situation is not yet finished playing out. |
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