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Menino80
Joined: 24 Feb 2008
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 Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 2:41 am Post subject: Study first then work? |
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I want to arrive in Shanghai and study at a private language school for a few months before looking for work. The catch is of course that the visa is only good for 30 days, but I hear I can extend twice for thirty days each. My plan is to study for these 90 days, and look for work towards the end of this period. Ideally I'd like to get work set up and then do a quick flight to Korea (where I have worked for two years) to activate my Z visa.
Would immigration have any problems with this if I've extended those 60 days? Also would i have any trouble signing up for a language school on a tourist visa? Thanks |
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Chris_Crossley
Joined: 26 Jun 2004
Posts: 1797
Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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| Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:11 am Post subject: Re: Study first then work? |
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| Menino80 wrote: |
| I want to arrive in Shanghai and study at a private language school for a few months before looking for work. |
Do you mean that you want to study Chinese at a private language school? If so, why do you believe that this is necessary if you intend working as an ESOL teacher in China? I have never studied Chinese formally (or even informally) and have been teaching ESOL here for the best part of eight years!
| Menino80 wrote: |
| The catch is of course that the visa is only good for 30 days, but I hear I can extend twice for thirty days each. |
Usually, that isn't a problem.
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| My plan is to study for these 90 days, and look for work towards the end of this period. Ideally I'd like to get work set up and then do a quick flight to Korea (where I have worked for two years) to activate my Z visa. |
In order to get a work position in China, you ideally should have a Z visa already if you are already in-country, although I can understand that you'd want to have something in the pipeline already just as if you're still abroad and get offered a position, since a letter from your potential employer would be needed in order to apply outside of China for a Z visa.
Why Korea? Will you be searching for work in the north of China, in which case South Korea may be geographically nearer? Perhaps it might be cheaper to make an "internal" flight to Hong Kong and apply for your Z visa there. Under the one country, two systems policy, HK is treated as foreign territory when it comes to travel arrangements between there and the mainland PRC.
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| Would immigration have any problems with this if I've extended those 60 days? Also would I have any trouble signing up for a language school on a tourist visa? Thanks! |
As I've just mentioned, you cannot get work legally in the PRC using a tourist visa, although it has been known that tourist visas may be changed to work visas internally; for that to happen, though, you may require connections, such as being married to a local.
In December '03, I came back to China on a Z visa but the company I was working for and I parted company very soon afterwards. My status was subsequently changed to tourist while I searched for another job and then changed back again to foreign expert once I found it - and I did not have to leave China in order for these changes to be made.
You could try making enquiries as to whether it would be possible for you to change your status from tourist to foreign expert in-country first, otherwise you could end up making an expensive trip to and from Korea unnecessarily. However, be prepared financially if you do have to make it. |
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mat chen
Joined: 01 Nov 2009
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Location: xiangtan hunan
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Menino80
Joined: 24 Feb 2008
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I've been studying for the last year here in Korea thru language exchanges and I've been to China three times already and have had relatively little problem making myself understood, so I think i'm good enough to make the move and go hardore studying for a while.
I'm not basing my studying as a pre-req for finding work, I just think getting my level up a little higher first would help me with picking up the language on my own later, really having nothing to do with work.
I do not plan on working while on the tourist visa, I would just be sending out applications and seeing what kind of bites I got, also I think it'd be easier to find a good gig after a few weeks of getting a feel for the place.
Could I get an invitation letter while in China, leave and go to Korea, and then apply for the Z? As far as why Korea, I've lived here for a while and can sleep on somebody's couch, plus it's a fun place for weekend ^_^
Anyway thanks for the info Chris it's a big help. |
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Dan The Chainsawman
Joined: 04 May 2005
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Location: Yinchuan
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| Depends on how much squeeze your employer has with the local officials. You can just as easily zip down to Hong Kong and get your visa as well, I've watched a couple teachers do it. |
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Renegade_o_Funk
Joined: 06 Jun 2009
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Menino80
Joined: 24 Feb 2008
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| Renegade_o_Funk wrote: |
| get job first, then study during your free time. If you are in a bigger city, there are classes in the mornings afternoons and evenings. Or you can just go pick up some flousy from the bar, any english corner, your classes, etc. Buy her some shit, whisper sweet nothings in her ear, then before you know it you will have a chinese girl friend that will teach you all the chinese you want, anytime you want. |
Yeah I'd rather do this later. Floozies can't teach 汉字
Thanks for the replies all. |
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