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Dray



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Private lessons Reply with quote

I'm thinking of going to China with my wife (Chinese) for a few months. Would teaching private English lessons while I'm there be illegal?
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LanGuTou



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Private lessons Reply with quote

Dray wrote:
I'm thinking of going to China with my wife (Chinese) for a few months. Would teaching private English lessons while I'm there be illegal?


To put it simply:

1. You will be traveling, I assume, on 'L' Visas (Tourist Visas). You cannot legally receive paid income on a 'L' Visa.

2. What you are talking about is tantamount to freelance teaching. You are offering a service so it is a form of self employment. You would need to register as a company to do this legally and be prepared for the hassle that goes with it.

So, in summary, the answer to your question is YES, IT IS!

However, I dare say that are many people in China doing just what you mentioned. The decision that you need to make is, is it really worth the risk?
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Zero



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When teachers have a full-time job, but they teach private lessons on the side, do they need to register as a business?
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Dray



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, exactly how much hassle is registering a company? Any links to further information on what's entailed to do this would be greatly appreciated.
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thefuzz



Joined: 10 Aug 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dray wrote:
So, exactly how much hassle is registering a company? Any links to further information on what's entailed to do this would be greatly appreciated.


A lot of hassle to do it in the Mainland. Check out this company (they help people with the registration process) for more information:

http://www.pathtochina.com/

So unless you're going to be doing big business (opening a school, running a factory, etc.) getting a business set-up in China is pointless. If you're really worried about getting caught, you can just set up a company and virtual office in Hong Kong (costs about 7000 Hong Kong Dollars). There are lots of Chinese companies that only register in Hong Kong...saves a lot of trouble. Most of these "trading companies" that are all the rage in China (they sell goods abroad) are registered in Hong Kong.

But, seriously, if you're going to be doing private teaching work at your home you're gonna be OK...no one is going to bother you. Or you can just get a job with a few teaching hours (at a university for example), they will set you up with a visa and work permit and if you want to work more you can just do a bit of private / part time teaching on the side.
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LanGuTou



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are coming to China just to visit, there is absolutely no point trying to register any kind of company. The reason that I raised it was based merely on your question related to legality. You cannot just arrive in China, call yourself a teacher and then go around soliciting freelance work.

As the previous poster stated, you are much better advised to get a short term teaching contract with an established school. As long as you don't make too much noise and bring attention to yourself, you may actually get away with freelance teaching but it is, in no way, legal.

As for the point raised by the poster asking about the legality of "extracurricular" part time work for employed teachers, this is where a grey area in the law may exist. It would, again, be very stupid to register as a school to do a bit of moonlighting. I would guess that a very large percentage of Chinese people have second or third incomes to supplement their main income. Chinese teachers also have jobs on the side! Where it is possible to come unstuck is declaration for taxation purposes.
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