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Rooster_2006
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Man. Things have changed around here since I left 6 years ago. The market is going crap. 15 years ago, I was the only foreigner here in this little town. Now there are over 10 working the schools. It's going to be tougher than I originally thought...Oh well, at least the people here don't make me feel as bad as they did in Korea...Less xenophobic and arrogant. |
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Rooster_2006
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zipper wrote: |
Man. Things have changed around here since I left 6 years ago. The market is going crap. 15 years ago, I was the only foreigner here in this little town. Now there are over 10 working the schools. It's going to be tougher than I originally thought...Oh well, at least the people here don't make me feel as bad as they did in Korea...Less xenophobic and arrogant. |
My thoughts EXACTLY, on every single point you mentioned. |
Yeah, I hear ya! Hess called last week and asked me a bunch of retarded questions like "Can you compare your cross cultural experiences you had in the Philippines, Taiwan, China and S.Korea?" or "If two kids were talking in the back of the room and your co-teacher wasn't there, then what would you do?" I thought that a lot of the questions that he asked were not relevant to the job, and frankly I was reluctant to answer some of them. But the finally question "What do you plan to do two years from now'? To which, I said that I wanted to eventually run my own school. I think that my last answer pretty much got my application rejected. He claimed that there are over 5000 applicants vying for 250 jobs. Yahoo! I got rejected by HESS; despite the fact I had worked for them in the late nineties and have received a great recommendation letter from a head NST. Their pay sucks anyway. They start you out with 520 NT or something an hour.  |
5,000 applicants vying for 250 jobs...
Now I can see why I was fired from Hess. I couldn't live up to the high standard of the rest of the ultra-elite 5% who were picked along with me...
They probably just figured "with a 20-to-1 applicant ratio, it doesn't matter if this guy is actually bad or not, we can get someone BETTER if we fire him." I mean, seriously, if you take 20 random people from the US population, there's bound to be an MA-holding certified teacher in there somewhere...
Geez...
Note to self: get out of English teaching. Once China rises, the US declines, and every last buxiban/eikaiwa/hagwon job has been filled by PhDs working for 350 NTD an hour, I won't regret having learned another trade and followed another career path... |
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LKJ
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Macau TECO is much friendlier than Hong Kong TECO. I'd 100% go there.
You should get an interview wherever you apply. The problem with HK they are known to reject people without even giving them an interview (which is against policy but the lady with red hair that runs the show is a known tyrant).
If you are rejected your visa in HK, Macau will also reject you as they are in the same administrative region.
As I said, go to Macau.
I hope this helps,
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Shimokitazawa
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How about Bangkok TECO? |
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Rooster_2006
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Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 8:19 am Post subject: |
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zipper wrote: |
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zipper wrote: |
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zipper wrote: |
Man. Things have changed around here since I left 6 years ago. The market is going crap. 15 years ago, I was the only foreigner here in this little town. Now there are over 10 working the schools. It's going to be tougher than I originally thought...Oh well, at least the people here don't make me feel as bad as they did in Korea...Less xenophobic and arrogant. |
My thoughts EXACTLY, on every single point you mentioned. |
Yeah, I hear ya! Hess called last week and asked me a bunch of retarded questions like "Can you compare your cross cultural experiences you had in the Philippines, Taiwan, China and S.Korea?" or "If two kids were talking in the back of the room and your co-teacher wasn't there, then what would you do?" I thought that a lot of the questions that he asked were not relevant to the job, and frankly I was reluctant to answer some of them. But the finally question "What do you plan to do two years from now'? To which, I said that I wanted to eventually run my own school. I think that my last answer pretty much got my application rejected. He claimed that there are over 5000 applicants vying for 250 jobs. Yahoo! I got rejected by HESS; despite the fact I had worked for them in the late nineties and have received a great recommendation letter from a head NST. Their pay sucks anyway. They start you out with 520 NT or something an hour.  |
5,000 applicants vying for 250 jobs...
Now I can see why I was fired from Hess. I couldn't live up to the high standard of the rest of the ultra-elite 5% who were picked along with me...
They probably just figured "with a 20-to-1 applicant ratio, it doesn't matter if this guy is actually bad or not, we can get someone BETTER if we fire him." I mean, seriously, if you take 20 random people from the US population, there's bound to be an MA-holding certified teacher in there somewhere...
Geez...
Note to self: get out of English teaching. Once China rises, the US declines, and every last buxiban/eikaiwa/hagwon job has been filled by PhDs working for 350 NTD an hour, I won't regret having learned another trade and followed another career path... |
You know rooster, I am here with my wife, and I have no plans of returning to the states. I kind of like Asia (Except for Korea!) for the amount of personal freedom and for its easier route to starting a business of some sort; even if that means selling hot dogs. I am game for it. It is much easier here to rent a place to live and run a business out of it at the same time; unlike the West where there exists zoning laws, residential verses commercial districts, people that love to sue, tones of taxes and laws up the goozoo. At least here, I can chill out in a park or a temple nursing a nice cold beer without getting arrested for breaking some absurd open container law or something.
I figure it this way, work teaching ESL for a few more years, and then go for a hot dog business sort of speak. Maybe someday in the future I will be able to interview people for my hotdog stand asking and reading them irrelevant open ended questions just for the shear amusement. I guess that the bottom line is: �To each his own.� |
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm 100% with you in regard to Asia, having lived here for 8.5 years. I plan to stay here.
I just don't intend to teach English much more than one or two years.
I know for a fact that it IS possible to get jobs that aren't teaching here in Taiwan. Why? Because in Korea, which is far more xenophobic than Taiwan, I worked as a receptionist at a guesthouse and was paid for it. And I was hired at a restaurant. So this myth that "they don't hire foreigners for jobs that can be done by locals" is just plain false.
Anyone who needs evidence of this, just look at Japan -- 900,000 Zainichi Koreans in Japan can't all be teaching English.
So I'm 100% with you in regard to Asia -- it's an awesome place which, in many ways, has more freedom than the US or other western countries. I just can't wait to get out of EFL.
Once I've gotten out of EFL and am running my version of your "hotdog stand," and am still living in Asia, I will be happier than Buddha! |
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