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saharastars

Joined: 30 Sep 2009 Posts: 107 Location: Wonderland
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Posted: Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:37 pm Post subject: Calling all green fingered expats |
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There are just too many bored , frustrated and depressed people out there - or at least on this board, the Polly Anna side of my personality thought it would be fun to solicit ideas for a typical compound garden. keeping a garden will no doubt soothe the soul....
ANY ADVICE ON PLANTS, PLANTING, SUPPLIERS AND TIPS WOULD BE GRATEFULLY RECIEVED.  |
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Stephen Jones
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Posts: 4124
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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I would suggest Qat. You can commercialize it and it will enable you to meet people you wouldn't normally come across, and if you can get your husband into the habit, you'll find you will have finally succeeded in keeping his mouth shut. |
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trapezius

Joined: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 1670 Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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I can't offer any real advice like Stephen did, but the best thing is to go to a big proper garden center to get all your supplies and advice/information. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Most "expats"in KSA leave the gardening on compounds or elsewhere to those from South Asia who do all the gardening work ! |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Dear scot47,
Perhaps the expats you refer to have the same philosophy as Villiers de L'Isle Adam:
�As for living, our servants will do that for us!"
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Mia Xanthi

Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 955 Location: why is my heart still in the Middle East while the rest of me isn't?
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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I would suggest Qat. You can commercialize it and it will enable you to meet people you wouldn't normally come across, and if you can get your husband into the habit, you'll find you will have finally succeeded in keeping his mouth shut. |
Oh, dear Stephen...just when I'd started to think you had no sense of humor at all. Best wishes of the season to you!
In the Dhahran/Khobar/Dammam tri-cities area, you can go to Sultan Garden Center (out near the Extra and Giant stores) and they will deliver large plants, pots, and bags of soil for you.
I found that it was even cheaper to do garden-supply shopping in Bahrain...some incredible buys on bedding plants there. There is a lovely nursery on the right hand side of the road going from the Marina restaurant to Al Osra supermarket. (Sorry, but I can't remember the name of the road itself right now.)
I know that several of my colleagues saved their sanity through gardening in the winter. Forget about the summer - it'll all die anyway - but in the winter you can grow basil, lemongrass, mint, cilantro. Bougainvillia and succulents will grow almost year-round. Pansies, petunias, marigolds will work during their various seasons, but die quickly when it heats up.
Never tried growing qat myself, nor any indoor plants that might require a grow-light, but maybe St. Stephen will give you more info on that. |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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Mia Xanthi wrote: |
Never tried growing qat myself, nor any indoor plants that might require a grow-light, but maybe St. Stephen will give you more info on that. |
Well, Teta Mia, growing Qat in the Magic Kingdom is punishable by 70 lashes for women, and 170 lashes for men. Shewing Qat in the Magic Kingdom is, theoritically, punishable by death in the Chop-Chop square of Riyadh!!
Teta Mia, do you agree that growing Qat should be legalized in the Magic Kingdom?  |
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Mia Xanthi

Joined: 13 Mar 2008 Posts: 955 Location: why is my heart still in the Middle East while the rest of me isn't?
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:42 am Post subject: |
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007, when you see what qat-chewing can do to a society such as Yemen, I would never think that qat-growing or use should be encouraged. Tell me, is it specifically prohibited in Islam, or is it one of those gray areas? |
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ntropy

Joined: 11 Oct 2003 Posts: 671 Location: ghurba
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Qat grows on a large TREE.
Myself, I had so many potted plants inside my place when I lived in the Magic Kingdon, I was in danger of having Brazilian aboriginals clear cut the place for crops. |
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Asda
Joined: 01 Jun 2008 Posts: 231
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Mia Xanthi wrote: |
007, when you see what qat-chewing can do to a society such as Yemen, I would never think that qat-growing or use should be encouraged. Tell me, is it specifically prohibited in Islam, or is it one of those gray areas? |
Hi Teta Mia, how are you? I hope things are OK.
Sorry for butting in, but I couldn't help overhearing...
Generally, anything that intoxicates is forbidden in Islam. Verses in the Quran talk about wine but the majority of scholars have extrapolated that to mean intoxicants. One school of thought, however, took it literally and said that beers and spirits are allowed! These people are still regarded as Muslims but with an extremely anomalous opinion... |
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007

Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 2684 Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Mia Xanthi wrote: |
007, when you see what qat-chewing can do to a society such as Yemen, I would never think that qat-growing or use should be encouraged. Tell me, is it specifically prohibited in Islam, or is it one of those gray areas? |
Well, the Prophet (PBUH) was once asked about certain drinks made from honey, corn, or barley by the process of fermenting them until they became alcoholic. The Prophet (PBUH) succinctly replied, �Every intoxicant is Khamr, and every Khamr is haram.� (Reported by Muslim.)
�Khamr" is anything which befogs the mind. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Dear 007,
Which would include, I assume, shisha. I know that I certainly got a "buzz" from smoking "the pipe", so how come that's permitted?
Regards,
John |
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desultude

Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 614
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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I had a great time gardening in my compound.
I did go to Sultan gardens mostly for plants- a bit more expensive but convenient and good quality.
I grew lemongrass like crazy. I love it for cooking and tea, and it is a beautiful grass. To get it started, get some fresh lemongrass twigs from Tamimi and put them in water. Within a couple of weeks they should be well-rooted. Put them in the ground or in a pot and keep them well watered. They even survive over the summer, but, of course they look very ratty in the fall.
I also grew aloe, agave, a sort of basil that grows like a weed there, and decorative grasses. I had a two year old pineapple plant growing by the time I left. Just put the top of one of those good, sweet little asian pineapples in the ground with the greens up to the sun, and water.
I have just started my garden here in Oman. Yesterday I planted papaya trees and a coconut tree, gardenias and strawberries. We have some melons going that volunteered from the compost, as well as a tomato plant and a sweet potato which both volunteered. My landlady left us a 2"' tall lemon tree to nurture, and we are trying.
Winter is a fantastic time for gardening here, and it will help you stay sane. I did have the guy who tended to our block in the compound water things regularly for me, which can mean at least twice a day when it starts getting hotter. Slip him 50 riyal occasionally and everyone will be happy. |
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johnslat

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Posts: 13859 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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And I hear that in Yemen there's an incredible Garden of Aden.
Regards,
John |
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desultude

Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 614
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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johnslat wrote: |
And I hear that in Yemen there's an incredible Garden of Aden.
Regards,
John |
Yes, but 30 K south of Nizwa we have Adam! I figure with a good enough garden, I may be able to lure him north. |
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