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elliot_spencer
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 Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:53 am Post subject: 6000Y is ok? |
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Hey guys, I've been offered a job in Hangzhou with free accommodation. Is it possible to live comfortably there with 6000Yuan a month?
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thefuzz
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What do you mean by living comfortably?
Perhaps you should define what living comfortably means to you and maybe you'll get an answer to your question. |
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jiangsu
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I defined what living comfortably meant to me and no-one who had lived in Beijing bothered to reply to my Beijing question 
I have travelled quite a bit around the Shanghai area - 6000RMB would probably normally be a good salary in a 'lesser' city, but with Suzhou and Hangzhou I am not so sure - they seemed pricier than Changzhou and other surrounding places although not quite as expensive as Shanghai.
So I think cost of living wise, you are looking at somewhere that is in between a second tier city and a first tier city like Shanghai. There are plenty of jobs in Hangzhou advertised at around 9000-10000RMB that I have considered myself, I see no reason why you wouldn't go for one of them because IIRC they just required a native speaker with BA/BSc. |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
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Is 6000 RMB calculated into your home country's currency a decent wage back home?
How many hours a week will you work?
What do they expect from you?
Can't answer your question until I know these... |
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jiangsu
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| Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| The Great Wall of Whiner wrote: |
Is 6000 RMB calculated into your home country's currency a decent wage back home?
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With respect, would you say that analogy is fair?
In most Chinese cities, you can have a decent flat for 3000RMB/month, in London the same amount of money would get you nothing. Two people can eat VERY well in Shanghai for about 300RMB, but to eat at a good restaurant in the UK would cost at least double that. |
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Zero
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| 9,000 to 10,000 a month in Hangzhou? Surely those are not your standard 16-ish hours a week university positions with apartment included? Sounds like a higher-hours gig, perhaps without housing. If I'm wrong, let me know -- maybe I'll head to Hangzhou. |
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jiangsu
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| They were in Private Training Schools mainly, about 20-25 hrs a week. |
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killian
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| 6k is low. |
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Chris_Crossley
Joined: 26 Jun 2004
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Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:00 am Post subject: I started on 5,500 RMB/mo myself |
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I only started on 5,500 RMB/mo myself, but that was eight years ago.
Even so, provided that one is not saddled with over-burdensome credit card debts (as I was back then - thankfully, no longer now), that amount of money, coupled with free accommodation provided by the school, was decent enough to live on (or at least would have been without the flaming debts!). |
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The Great Wall of Whiner
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:05 am Post subject: |
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| jiangsu wrote: |
| The Great Wall of Whiner wrote: |
Is 6000 RMB calculated into your home country's currency a decent wage back home?
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With respect, would you say that analogy is fair? |
Ok, fair enough. But when I was here in 2008, the price of 100% orange juice was 8.9 RMB and now it's 15.9 RMB for a liter. Bread has also gone up more than 50%.
I don't reckon the price of OJ or bread went up 50% back at home.
China is not the cheap paradise it used to be. |
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Chris_Crossley
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Location: Still in the centre of Furnace City, PRC, after eight years!!!
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:05 am Post subject: Bus fares haven't gone up really, though! |
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Well, at least bus fares haven't really risen even though other prices have.
I can still commute to work on two buses, where the fare of each one is only just the one kuai. |
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themanymoonsofjupiter
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:52 am Post subject: Re: Bus fares haven't gone up really, though! |
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| Chris_Crossley wrote: |
Well, at least bus fares haven't really risen even though other prices have.
I can still commute to work on two buses, where the fare of each one is only just the one kuai. |
apparently here in dalian home prices have more than tripled in the past five years (the last time i was here). going out to eat at a decent restaurant also skyrocketed, but i was quite pleased to see that the bus fares haven't changed.
back to the topic at hand: as people have said, you've not given enough information. 6000 really isn't as bad as people are making it out to be and if you're sensible, you can easily save quite a bit of that. |
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jeahbaby
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:44 pm Post subject: Re: 6000Y is ok? |
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| elliot_spencer wrote: |
Hey guys, I've been offered a job in Hangzhou with free accommodation. Is it possible to live comfortably there with 6000Yuan a month?
Thanks |
In short, the answer is NO! |
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A'Moo
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| Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| jiangsu wrote: |
| The Great Wall of Whiner wrote: |
Is 6000 RMB calculated into your home country's currency a decent wage back home?
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With respect, would you say that analogy is fair?
In most Chinese cities, you can have a decent flat for 3000RMB/month, in London the same amount of money would get you nothing. Two people can eat VERY well in Shanghai for about 300RMB, but to eat at a good restaurant in the UK would cost at least double that. |
These comparisons are absolutely ridiculous...On each occasion someone on here (I've probably been guilty of it myself) makes a comparison between costs/salaries between China and the west, all of us FT's get REALLY depressed...
Unless your life, and your future, is beer, cigs and noodle stalls. |
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A man called Roger
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| On each occasion someone on here (I've probably been guilty of it myself) makes a comparison between costs/salaries between China and the west |
Most of anything approaching western standards is more expensive here. Food could be argued to be cheaper - but eat cheap in restaurants then you have all sorts of hygiene and ingredients issues to think over if doing this on a daily basis - buying local products in supermarkets for home cooking is cheap.
If you're just living a year or so - then you don't mind tatty cheap housing, that crumbles before your very eyes - and could gladly live on cheap restaurant food.
But anybody intending to live here long-term - permanency means they often prefer their stuff to last and perform, without threatening to harm (as in collapse, burn or poison). It seems that many long-timers really get sick - in fact even start to fear the long-term consequences of being around or imbibing China cheap and nasty - and go in search of products that have standards approaching something like back home.
In such cases it comes as a shock to find out - top range Chinese made products that are of export quality - Chinese produced IKEA products from Chinese IKEA stores are a great example - actually cost more in China than they do in the west (not that any sane person comes to comes to China to shop in IKEA - but it makes an interesting comparison)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can certainly survive as a transient worker on 6,000/month, a year in and out will be no problem - but living here long-term on those wages will be much more of a test!!!!!
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