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nihon



Joined: 04 Jan 2010
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:29 pm    Post subject: Don't know what to do...! Reply with quote

I lived in Japan for about six years -- I'm not fluent but I can get by. I taught some free Eikaiwa classes, but I've never officially taught ESL or taken a Celta/tefl course. I have a degree in Education.
So a few questions:
Because the market's so saturated, are my qualifications enough, or do I need to take a CELTA course?
Is this a good time to be looking for a teaching job? Or am I too late?
Will I be able to save lots of money? Or would Korea be better?
Where is the best place to start looking for a job?

I feel pressed for time, and I'd really like to go back to Japan, but I don't want to rush and end up doing things the wrong way.
Please help out with any advice! Thanks.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a degree, you are minimally qualified for teaching jobs here. If you want to teach EFL long-term (here or elsewhere), I'd strongly recommend the certification, if not a master's degree, too.

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Is this a good time to be looking for a teaching job? Or am I too late?

Peak hiring takes place in February and March for entry level jobs.

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Will I be able to save lots of money? Or would Korea be better?
In Korea you will not have to pay rent in the larger cities, so I'm told. So, that would be an immense savings. But, how you spend your life will also determine what you can save. Korea has its down sides, too. Don't neglect those. Cultural xenophobia is one of the strongest. Losing your visa if you quit or are fired is another.

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Where is the best place to start looking for a job?
Where as in regions/cities, where as in web sites, or where as in types of employers?

Can't help you with the first item. Figure what climate you can endure first, and then decide whether you want a large or small town.

As for the second, there are a plethora of sites around. Start here for now. I hope the FAQs can be restored so I wouldn't have to repost this again and again.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=77830

As for the last point, you are eligible for 2 main types of employers: eikaiwa and ALT. Eikaiwa jobs abound. ALT jobs are either through the JET programme (too late for you now) or dispatch agencies (largely untrusted). If you are lucky you might find a business English agency (depends on your background) or a rare direct hire at a BOE or public school. You might also use your experience to get a direct hire at a private HS or JHS, but exactly what did you do for 6 years here, if not teach EFL?
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nihon



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the response!
I was living on a military base with my family for most of the time, to answer your question.
I've just applied with HEART, since I had a Japanese friend who worked at one of their schools, and it seems to have a good reputation.
I'm just trying to decide if I really want to do this. It might not be worth all the hassle and one-year committment (money-wise). If I won't be able to save a decent amount of money, I'd rather do a shorter program somewhere else.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nihon wrote:
Thanks for the response!
I was living on a military base with my family for most of the time, to answer your question.
Thank you.

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I've just applied with HEART, since I had a Japanese friend who worked at one of their schools, and it seems to have a good reputation.
Not from most people I know. Perhaps a different Heart...?

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I'm just trying to decide if I really want to do this. It might not be worth all the hassle and one-year committment (money-wise). If I won't be able to save a decent amount of money, I'd rather do a shorter program somewhere else.
The market is flooded, to be sure, so getting in is no longer as easy as before.

How much money do you want to save, and how much do you have in debts to be paid every month? Half of a 250,000 yen/month salary goes to average basic necessities, so what you can save from the remainder depends on lifestyle, debts, and what luxuries you spend it on. Search for the "cheapskates" thread I started for ideas on how to save money, from the sensible to the insane.
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womblingfree



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nihon, if your degree in Education qualifies you as a teacher you could skip conversation schools altogether and go to work for an international school. Here you can teach whatever your specialism is and not EFL.

There are several agencies that will place you in a school from overseas and set you up. Through an agency the pay's not as good, but it's still better than the an eikaiwa salary usually between 280,000 and 350,000 yen a month. You can always look for other jobs once you're here.

If your degree in education doesn't qualify you as a teacher then you're still qualified for a job at one of the big language schools. And no, you don't need a CELTA for Japan, and if you want to teach as a career, EFL or anything else, then there are better qualifications you should do.
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nihon



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

womblingfree,

Could you give me more information about this? What kind of agencies could I go through? Would I need to have experience as a teacher? I've only been a sub at public schools. I haven't finished certification yet because I've been busy with unrelated jobs (still searching for my dream career).
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Glenski



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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.tokyowithkids.com/fyi/international_schools.html
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/%7Etc9w-ball/useful/schools.htm
These are just lists of links to international schools. Individual sites may or may not have ads and may or may not be in English.

Otherwise look up these job fairs or related sites.
The 3 biggest ones are:

Search Associates, ISS (International School Services) and CIS (Council of International Schools).

And, yes, to get a job in a real international school, you will usually need a couple of years of experience teaching in your home country on your license. No license, and you are not qualified. BTW, international schools begin their academic year in fall, not April, so timing is different from most other places. I don't think you're qualified for int'l school work, but that's the lowdown.
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