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mushroomyakuza



Joined: 17 Sep 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 2:02 pm    Post subject: Job availability in Thailand Reply with quote

Hi everyone

I was just hoping to get a general impression of how saturated the market is at the moment within Thailand. I've applied to Japan and Vietnam as well as Thailand but had the least response from Thailand, and also seen the least amount of jobs advertised within Thailand.

Is this for any particular reason? Is the market flooded at the moment?

Is it easier to just go to Thailand and find a job on the ground than applying online?
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sr



Joined: 05 Oct 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is very quiet this time of the year.

Check out school year that will give you an idea to your question.
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Sadebugo



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's much better to go to Thailand to find a job. Unlike Korea, most employers want to see you in person before extending an offer.

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MichiganFan



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sadebugo wrote:
It's much better to go to Thailand to find a job. Unlike Korea, most employers want to see you in person before extending an offer.

Is it hard with the visa situation to just rock up in like Chaing Mai and start knocking on doors? I know a guy who does that and has never had a problem getting a job.
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perfectweapon



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is not a problem, but the problem comes with the visa. You are only permitted to stay here for so long.
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MichiganFan



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

perfectweapon wrote:
That is not a problem, but the problem comes with the visa. You are only permitted to stay here for so long.

Well, I figure if the worst thing that happens is I crash out on the beach for a month or two and move on somewhere else, I'm fine. Just as long as the hotel has internet access.
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perfectweapon



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MichiganFan don�t worry if you come here there are plenty of places that will employ you without a visa. If you come go to a Thai Embassy, and get a 90 day visa, as it is the best one to get. Other people can advise you how to extend that visa.
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Placebo



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually, it is good advice to just come here and knock on doors but currently the job market is somewhat saturated. Not a lot of new jobs coming in and a lot of people looking right now.

I'd only come at this time of the year if you have some cash to fall back on and if you're very very patient...
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Pauleddy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:41 am    Post subject: OK Reply with quote

Placebo is quite correct,

This period around Christmas is notoriously bad anyway. It's not the start of term, or the end of term. The Unis are half-way through the semester.

Due to all of the economic factors (and so on) there are less jobs even in a slack time.

If u look on the web boards and buy the BKK Post newspaper (is also on-line) you will see the lack of jobs.

PW is talking about the old days, when you could walk into a village school and get a job. However, there are not "plenty of places giving jobs without visas". You cant stay here without a visa, and if you have a 90 day visa you soon have to extend it somehow. If u r here without a visa, you will be arrested and charged a lot for overstay when you try to leave the airport. If the overstay is bad, you will get a red stamp banning you from Thailand.

To get a "real" job, you should get a work permit. To get that, you need a Non_imm visa (usually type B). Once you get the job, the school may send you to KL or Ventiane (laos) to convert yr small tourist visa to a full working visa (you pay the trip). Some small or part-time language schools may give you cash jobs, although you are technically illegal if you work without the visa and permit. You can be fined, imprisoned or deported if they throw the law at you.

Any sort of regulated job, as in a gvment school, a real university or even in a major language school..will require the paper work.

If you are within the law and a permanent paid staff member, you will get
Thai social security cover (not bad if you can select a good hospital) or BUPA if the school gives it.

Eddy
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Aristede



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Placebo wrote:
Usually, it is good advice to just come here and knock on doors but currently the job market is somewhat saturated. Not a lot of new jobs coming in and a lot of people looking right now.

I'd only come at this time of the year if you have some cash to fall back on and if you're very very patient...


I too am looking. Thailand is my first choice (already there), but I am just as willing to go elsewhere if there are opportunities. As far as "knocking on doors," I am waiting out the holidays first.

I know that in someplace like Japan, the consensus is that the market is saturated, but for each person that says that about Thailand, it seems there is another who says there are still plenty of jobs. Maybe it's more a matter of "good job" availability than available jobs.
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KnockoutNed



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would stay away from Chiang Mai if you're in need of money. I have been looking for steady hours for the past 3 months with no luck. The only place hiring is NES which pays a whopping 200 baht an hour.

I have a few friends up here and its the same story with them
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MaiPenRai



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For all newcomers thinking of working in Thailand,

it is no longer what it used to be. There are fewer good jobs and they usually go to teachers with experience and certification. There are still low end jobs and some (not plenty) will hire you without getting you a Visa and WP. Not only is this dangerous as Eddy has explained, but its extremely costly to you having to leave every 30 days (by air) to get a new tourist visa OR pay to get short extensions (there is a limit). Other dangers of working illegally is that you have no recourse and the school can do ANYTHING they want. In most cases, it is YOU who will get in trouble for working illegally, NOT the school for hiring you illegally and if they do, they will be able to get out of it.

Nobody should be recommending that people come here and work illegally. It only keeps wages low, keeps the schools/companies thinking they can do anything and makes all other honest foreigners look bad in the eyes of the Thais. Things are tightening up because partly because too many people took advantage of the ease here before.

Chiang Mai is notorious for low wages and tight market. Expect to make less than 30,000/month in Chiang Mai if you manage to get a job at all.

If you have a degree and TEFL certification and a year or more experience, you should be able to find a decent job. A degree and TEFL or exp, also possible for decent jobs. WIth just a degree, you better be young, energetic, presentable, white, outgoing, etc,etc.

If you really want a job and dont have certification, there are plenty of TEFL schools that offer job placements (mostly in govt schools outside of Bangkok).
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perfectweapon



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last year immigration done a raid on a school in the Nonthaburi area, and they had the cameras rolling. All the foreign teachers were running out of the building, so as stated it is illegal and you don�t have any recourse if you are caught. The school might pay a fine, but if you are caught you will be deported.
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Placebo



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aristede wrote:
the consensus is that the market is saturated, but for each person that says that about Thailand, it seems there is another who says there are still plenty of jobs. Maybe it's more a matter of "good job" availability than available jobs.


Believe me, I'm not basing my opinion on anecdotal research. My friend has just completed his TEFL in Phuket in October and has had exactly 2 interviews. None of the 'graduates' that finished the TEFL with him have found jobs yet.

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motown



Joined: 07 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Placebo wrote:
Aristede wrote:
the consensus is that the market is saturated, but for each person that says that about Thailand, it seems there is another who says there are still plenty of jobs. Maybe it's more a matter of "good job" availability than available jobs.


Believe me, I'm not basing my opinion on anecdotal research. My friend has just completed his TEFL in Phuket in October and has had exactly 2 interviews. None of the 'graduates' that finished the TEFL with him have found jobs yet.

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Are any of your friends consider jobs in remote locations?
I was always under the impression that if you can't find a job in Bangkok you could find a job in a village even though the resources, the pay and night life would be minimal. You would at least break-even until a Bangkok position opens up.
If you have to teach in a remote location I would guess that Thailand would be one of the better places to do that as the weather is good in all parts, the people in Thailand are friendly and you are within a 1/2 day bus ride (or less) to a major centre (meaning Chiang Mai, Bangkok or Phuket).
There have been other posts over the last few months stating that jobs are always available in the outback but if the job market has dried up there then things have truly changed.
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