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DavidH
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 Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:03 am Post subject: Degrees but no teaching experience. Could I find a job? |
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| I have a BS (agronomy) and an MBA. I have many years of experience in banking and finance, agricultural business, and commodity trading. I have no experience in teaching but recently did a TESOL workshop and found it very interesting. My wife has a BA and MA and 25 years of French and English teaching experience. We also have a 10 year old son to consider. I feel confident my wife could find opportunities but could I? Thanks for your help. |
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ttorriel
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| Teaching experience is not yet a country-wide requirement. There is no degree-type (major) requirement either (to be legally credentialed to live and work). |
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LanGuTou
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I am curious:
With a background in agronomy and trading. Also experience in finance and banking, why on earth are you considering coming to China as a teacher?
Your core skills are high demand in China at the moment. If providing a good living for your family is the priority, you have much more opportunity utilising those skills. |
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DavidH
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| Thanks ttoriel. What could I teach? I see adds for business and business English. Would I be able to find something in secondary or post secondary? I read that working with recruiters can be risky. If so, how should I look for jobs? Any ideas would be appreciated. |
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DavidH
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| LanGuTou, thank you. I think what I really want to do is to work in China in agriculture. Frankly, I am bored with ag in the US. The industry in the US is so finely tuned and is controlled by so few companies that there is not much for personal growth. The real action for the rest of my career is going to be China finding ways to increase the quality and quantity of its food. The effect the surge in demand from China has had on the grain industry in the US and the rest of the world as well is remarkable. Most of the grain I trade goes into the export market and ends up in Asia. Could I teach in an agricultural school? Could I also work in ag business in China? |
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daCabbie
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Hello,
The more specialized a job you want the longer and harder the search time is. With your life experience and education you can easily get your foot in the door.
Once you are here and start to understand the way things work you will find it much easier to find what you are looking for as well you will know better what it is you are looking for.
Almost any Agricultural Uni would be glad to hire you and your wife together for a year. Use that time to better understand the culture and language and search for the job that is right for you.
Welcome to China! There is always room for one more qualified person in the workforce. |
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LanGuTou
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| DavidH wrote: |
| LanGuTou, thank you. I think what I really want to do is to work in China in agriculture. Frankly, I am bored with ag in the US. The industry in the US is so finely tuned and is controlled by so few companies that there is not much for personal growth. The real action for the rest of my career is going to be China finding ways to increase the quality and quantity of its food. The effect the surge in demand from China has had on the grain industry in the US and the rest of the world as well is remarkable. Most of the grain I trade goes into the export market and ends up in Asia. Could I teach in an agricultural school? Could I also work in ag business in China? |
Agricultural development in China is a high demand sector. There are jobs available and carry much higher remuneration than teaching. I am a Food Technologist by training. I used teaching as a vehicle to learn the language and business practices. This will be my last year as a teacher. I have just registered a company providing services to the Food and Agricultural Sector on a freelance basis. The demand, I may tell you, is high.
Carefully search opportunities outside teaching and I think you will hit lucky. Along with your wife's potential teaching income, you could live a very lucrative and fruitful existence in China. |
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DavidH
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| LanGuTou and daCabbie, thank you. Great ideas. I am much more hopeful now. I look forward to finding opportunity in China. |
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SnoopBot
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| DavidH wrote: |
| LanGuTou, thank you. I think what I really want to do is to work in China in agriculture. Frankly, I am bored with ag in the US. The industry in the US is so finely tuned and is controlled by so few companies that there is not much for personal growth. The real action for the rest of my career is going to be China finding ways to increase the quality and quantity of its food. The effect the surge in demand from China has had on the grain industry in the US and the rest of the world as well is remarkable. Most of the grain I trade goes into the export market and ends up in Asia. Could I teach in an agricultural school? Could I also work in ag business in China? |
Agricultural development in China is a high demand sector. There are jobs available and carry much higher remuneration than teaching. I am a Food Technologist by training. I used teaching as a vehicle to learn the language and business practices. This will be my last year as a teacher. I have just registered a company providing services to the Food and Agricultural Sector on a freelance basis. The demand, I may tell you, is high.
Carefully search opportunities outside teaching and I think you will hit lucky. Along with your wife's potential teaching income, you could live a very lucrative and fruitful existence in China. |
Teaching courses other than English at Chinese universities requires a PhD in the subject area and Chinese language fluency 99% of the time.
This idea about finding another business idea outside of "teaching" is a good one. This is what many have done in the past.
For teaching with a BS degree and a MBA, you can possibly find MBA joint-programs but that also requires a real teaching degree in education and often a PhD.
Your best bet is to use teaching as a jump-start into a better career. Expect a salary range around 6000-8000 RMB a month in a city like Beijing with your qualifications.
Pick a position that centers you in a business area, has low hours and do not be concerned about top pay to start. Location and free time will be much more important for business networking. |
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