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[msp64]

Hello everyone, just wanted to hear your opinion....

I am a Korean American, who is actively looking for ESL teaching jobs in Shanghai. As advised by my TESOL Course instructor, I included my picture in the CV (resume) and sent it out to a bunch of schools last night. I have a BA from UCLA, California Teaching certificate (in music, but still I"m certified) and also TESOL certified (100 hr).

Long story short, I am very interested in working for big language mills as you guys put it, and applied to Wall Street (WSI)...and within a day I got a very friendly reply from the recruiting director that included these words

"Unfortunately, the terms of our licensing agreement as a private business prevent us from obtaining working visas for applicants who don�t have two years of language teaching or training experience � post graduation."

Is that true for most places? or am I just bitter that I got rejected? lol

Even though I'm not so called "white" and don't have "2" years of experience, but how many people have that under their belt???

Thanks for your inputs!!

[tomstone]

Take anything that language mills tell you with a grain of salt. EF is telling applicants that they CANNOT get work visas for teachers over 55 years of age. That is not true.

A Caucasian face is a plus, but not a necessity.

[msp64]

Thanks for your input, but funny thing about EF...

Their application process is online and there's a size limit on the resume that I"m supposed to upload, so I submitted my application without a picture.

I got a reply from their recruiting director the same day that they want an interview with me ....so I guess I answered my own question? haha

This is kinda bumming me out...but we'll see what happens in the next few days.

[ttorriel]

"these days" ?

It's always been the basic number one requirement in Asian countries.

The two year experience thing is basically new - and many have it actually. Many people are being denied visas because they are not at least 25 years old as well.

It's time the country and market is no longer filled with nearly pubescent 21 year old "teachers" coming here for everything but teaching.

[tomstone]

Tell them you have two years experience.

[vikeologist]

Let's be honest. Some customers want the foreign teachers to be White, or rather not Asian. Many language mills work with children and so you may have problems of this type with them. But look, it's their loss!

Discrimination exists everywhere. Schools (or any employer) that choose not to take on good staff becase of the colour of their skin just free up quality staff for the employers who don't discriminate.

Once I worked with an employer to whom i sent a lot of good employees and their choice seemed to me to be extremely strange until someone pointed out to me that they were only acceptng one narrow racial group. Frankly in the circumstances I laughed my arse off.

[tomstone]

msp64, this is something I should have mentioned when I first said that a Caucasian face is a plus, not a necessity. That is mostly true for teaching primary school, as vikeologist mentioned. The parents think that a Western face means "real" English.

[The Great Wall of Whiner]

[msp64]

Thank you guys for your honest input. I also would rather work with adults or university students, and that is why I was bummed about getting rejected by WSI.

I feel like if I had a chance to sit down with employees face to face, it would be easier for me to persuade them that I am qualified despite my ethnicity, but I'm still in the States.

On a dif. note, this site and forum is great but jobs posted are very limited and repeated it seems.....any ideas on how to get Uni jobs from overseas?

Thanks!

[A'Moo]

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[ttorriel]

What is the problem with set standards? They exist elsewhere.

State sanctioned salaries are actual in the 2800-4500 range.

[SnoopBot]