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ConnDestn



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:26 pm    Post subject: .. Reply with quote

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Hot-Carl



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Cancelling contract (geos) AND New interviews Reply with quote

ConnDestn wrote:
I have 2 questions

1. Has anyone ever resigned from GEOS before the contract was finished?
If so were there any problems and what kind? Fees? Visa problems? ect

What kind of problems could there be? Geos wants what... 4 months (WTF!?!) notice, right? They are only required to give you one months notice if they want to get rid of you. Think about that. Anyway, they must be used to teachers bailing without giving that much notice. The only thing they can legally do to you is not give you any bonus for contract completion. THAT IS IT. They could threaten to sue for damages to the company, but they'd have to prove that in court. That would cost them more money than it's worth, so don't worry about that.

Your visa is your visa, not your employers, so there are no visa problems.

If you want to quit, just quit. They can't stop you.

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2. (This goes to anyone) If you were currently working at a job and looking for a different one in which case you planned on leaving the current one if you manage to snag the better one, do you tell the prospective employee that you currently working somewhere. I guess what I am wondering is, by telling them you are currently working you are obviously implying that you would quit that job to work for the new place. Wouldn`t they frown on you knowing you are quitting a previous teaching gig?

Thank you in advance.
Employers are usually just concerned when you can start. People quit jobs for all sorts of reasons, and anyone hiring you knows this. It's best to have a good reason prepared for quitting (one that doesn't put down the company you're quitting, for obvious reasons. It's totally legit to say you're quitting because you're concerned about the future of Geos, btw), but other than that I wouldn't worry about this too much.[/quote]
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. By law employers cannot penalize you financially for leaving a contract early. Some try.

2. If you are interested in a second employer, how do you think he's going to consider you if you don't show him a resume? That will have to have your current position on it. It's embarrassing, though, if you've only worked a very short time and want to leave.

A. How do you really know the second employer has a better job? So many are the same.
B. The second employer may wonder if you'll leave him, too.
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ConnDestn



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Hot-Carl, Yeah 4 months. Its a little crazy. Telling the prospective employer my concern for my future sounds easy enough. It isn`t my only reason but it`s definately one of them and seems to be relevant at this time.


@Glenski,I always planned on showing the next employer a resume, was just wondering if leaving off the current job would be best. Yeah does seem embarrassing but I guess the punishment fits the crime.

A. Of course you don`t really know. Its just taking a chance. What I do know are my feelings about the current position, and I do know for sure a few things that would be better.

B. Which was the problem I was trying to get at. Would this stop them from hiring me
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ConnDestn wrote:
B. Which was the problem I was trying to get at. Would this stop them from hiring me
Trust me. They'll ask if it's missing and you have a visa.
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womblingfree



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At Aeon you got a completion bonus and your airfare home when you completed your contract. Pretty good I thought.

If you left early and gave sufficient notice (3 months?) you still got one of those.

If you just run away then obviously you got nothing.

If there's any kind of end of contract bonus at Geos you can probably kiss it goodbye.
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Berzerker



Joined: 03 May 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is Japanese law for quitting a contract? I thought you had to give a month notice. No?
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By law an employer has to give you only 30 days notice, or pay in lieu thereof. It is not written into the labor laws so clearly what you have to give them.

Some employers put 1-4 months in their contracts. Ridiculous considering what little they have to give their employees. In the first year, some people will say you have to abide by these clauses, and after that only 2 weeks is necessary. But, in practical applicability, 2-4 weeks is sufficient. Besides, a lot of those contracts are invalid because of other (illegal) clauses in them.

Here are the labor laws in English.
http://www.jil.go.jp/english/laborinfo/library/documents/llj_law1-rev.pdf
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