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CherylAnneClara



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:31 pm    Post subject: What is a Normal University? Reply with quote

I have found a university in Guilin called the Guangxi Normal University. What is that? How does it differ from a regular university?
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roadwalker



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A normal college or normal university is primarily concerned with preparing their students to become teachers. You won't find much difference from other universities except possibly in emphasis. Chinese students apply to the schools with the best overall reputation that they think they have a chance to be accepted and then choose the top one of those, often regardless of curriculum. So don't be surprised to find that some or even a lot of students at a normal school don't want to become teachers.
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Zero



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A normal university is one where the FAO tries to rip you off and give you a inferior apartment to the one you were promised. Ha!
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Mr. Ed



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: What is a Normal University? Reply with quote

CherylAnneClara wrote:
I have found a university in Guilin called the Guangxi Normal University. What is that? How does it differ from a regular university?


They used to be called "Teacher's College."
They are to be found in every province.
Their housing is usually in a "Foreign Guest House" which is a cheap hotel. Clean and secure but no palace.

Guilin Normal has a very good reputation and it is in a very desirable location. They also have an active academic press.
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Sugar & Spice



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"A normal college or normal university is primarily concerned with preparing their students to become teachers"

Hogwash.

Perhaps in the past. Now, "Normal University" = average students, ie: not the brightest who go to the "Abnormal University".
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Sugar & Spice



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Chinese students apply to the schools with the best overall reputation that they think they have a chance to be accepted and then choose the top one of those.."

Complete hogwash.

The students take a test which is offered once a year. Based on their performance they are basically told where they will go to school and what they will study. If their folks have some cash this could change.

The students do not apply for anything.

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The Great Wall of Whiner



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pure, unadulterated hogwash!

My very good friend's daughter applied to a lot of universities. She chose the best one. And my boss's son applied to about 12 and was accepted to 5, and he chose the best one.

So yeah, they do apply.

PS

Welcome to Dave's ESL Cafe and happy Chinese new year to you.
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Sugar & Spice



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume they were "private" universities.

As stated, if the parents have cash things may differ. I guess your friend's kids aren't the brightest bulbs on the planet, just like me!

Thanks for your welcome.
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MisterButtkins



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work at a Normal University and probably half of my students say they want to become teachers. The other half want to be translators or business men/women. The only thing that strikes me as weird about it compared to other universities is that the kids have to practice writing on chalkboards, which I guess is useful for a teacher in China.
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Mr. Ed



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normal Universities were formerly Teacher�s Colleges.

Two transformations occurred. First, Colleges were upgraded to Universities. This required a broader and more diverse curriculum and a higher admission standard.

Second, the educational mandate to prepare teachers was necessarily expanded.

Colleges offer two and three year degrees while universities offer B.A at a minimum.

The Colleges were staffed with 3rd tier quality teachers and administrators. This did not change with the new academic designation. Students still get a 3rd tier education at the new Normal University.
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The Ever-changing Cleric



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:28 am    Post subject: