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Gaijinheadpothead
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:20 am Post subject: Leaving the last day of WHV and returning with holiday visa. |
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Should I encounter any problems?? I need to come back to collect my final salary and stuff.
Someone from my company told me that I will have my bags checked and maybe not left back into the country!!
This same company has being telling me not to worry about renewing my visa , that they will do it. And here I am with no new visa and only a few days left on my WHV.
So, I wll miss the last 4 days of my contract and I get the sneaking feeling there will be an issue with getting the money thats owed to me. (the month in hand I did at the start of the year.) |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:20 pm Post subject: Re: Leaving the last day of WHV and returning with holiday v |
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Gaijinheadpothead wrote: |
Should I encounter any problems?? I need to come back to collect my final salary and stuff. |
If you leave legally as you say (not AFTER the WHV has expired), then return (how soon later?), you are a tourist and should not encounter problems. Certainly not if you enter at a different port.
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Someone from my company told me that I will have my bags checked and maybe not left back into the country!! |
Checked for what? Sounds like someone used to toting contraband if you ask me!
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This same company has being telling me not to worry about renewing my visa , that they will do it. And here I am with no new visa and only a few days left on my WHV. |
Your company does not renew the WHV, if that's what you mean. Immigration does.
If they meant that they will sponsor you for a change to a work visa, ok, but that will take a few weeks to process. What exactly do you mean?
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So, I wll miss the last 4 days of my contract and I get the sneaking feeling there will be an issue with getting the money thats owed to me. (the month in hand I did at the start of the year.) |
That's a totally different issue and between you and the employer. What are you doing to avoid any problems? |
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Gaijinheadpothead
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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If you leave legally as you say (not AFTER the WHV has expired), then return (how soon later?), you are a tourist and should not encounter problems. Certainly not if you enter at a different port.
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I will be gone for 4 days, is this to soon? My visa expires on the 20th and I plan to leave on that day. Also I'll leave from Narita and come back through Narita.
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Checked for what? Sounds like someone used to toting contraband if you ask me!
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Check for what? Exactly. I don't understand why they said this. Sounds like they don't want me coming back anytime soon. ( Ignore my screen name!)
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If they meant that they will sponsor you for a change to a work visa, ok, but that will take a few weeks to process. What exactly do you mean? |
It was to change to a work visa. I filled out some forms and gave them my diploma and stuff. This was over a month ago. They keep telling me to wait for a reply from immigration and to 'not worry'.
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That's a totally different issue and between you and the employer. What are you doing to avoid any problems? |
Well I've been telling them since January that this day is coming. I even suggested I should quit about a month ago, they told me not to because they will get me a visa.
Anyway , I have to make plans to leave before my visa expires because I'm clueless as to what's goin on with the application. I think it was left too late. And I also think that they couldn't care less.
p.s: I appreciate your feedback. Thanks |
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Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 318
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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Gaijinheadpothead wrote: |
Check for what? Exactly. I don't understand why they said this. Sounds like they don't want me coming back anytime soon. ( Ignore my screen name!) |
If someone is leaving from a WHV and returning immediately on a tourist visa, I'd imagine the concern would be that they were planning to continue their work illegally. So they'd probably be checking for things that indicated that you were going there to work, not to vacation. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, so you have already applied to change your visa status. I'm not sure if you invalidate that by leaving and then returning, but there may be a stamp or something in your passport now which says you have applied for the new visa. That will be seen by immigration.
A month is a typical time needed to process visa paperwork. Could even take 2. As long as you feel comfortable that the company isn't pulling on over on you, things should be ok. Once they get the COE, you'll get it and then convert. |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 1546 Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Gaijinheadpothead wrote: |
It was to change to a work visa. I filled out some forms and gave them my diploma and stuff. This was over a month ago. They keep telling me to wait for a reply from immigration and to 'not worry'. |
Sounds like they may be waiting on your COE. It can take upto 8 weeks for immigration COE applications especially now when they are extremely busy. Find out when exactly they submitted you app and contact immigration. You still have a week to go so it might work out yet. It's not always necessary to leave the country to change to a tourist visa. If your company truely has submitted your application you should go to immigration and see if your app processing is close to completion and if not perhaps they can give you leave to stay until it is ready. |
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Apsara
Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 2142 Location: Tokyo, Japan
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Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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Definitely check on the status of that application before you just up and leave- as above, you may invalidate it by leaving it mid-process. If you do have a pending application, you can stay past the date of your WHV, although there should be an "Application" stamp in your passport if this is the case- don't stay past the expiry date without getting that stamp if you don't already have it.
If you do end up leaving and coming back, 4 days is not really enough to convince Immigration that you are not planning to continue working when you come back in. If you go this route, be prepared for some thorough questioning. |
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Gaijinheadpothead
Joined: 08 Sep 2009 Posts: 27
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:13 am Post subject: |
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Thank you all for clearing some things up for me.
So, anyway I don't have this stamp. And I haven't been told about this by my company. When I told them about my plan they were more concerned about making up a false excuse for the school, and told me not to say a word to anyone. I think there is a serious lack of communication between everyone in this company.
Can anyone tell me the contact details for immigration?
Do they speak english? ( I've heard that they don't). |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:28 am Post subject: |
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Gaijinheadpothead wrote: |
Can anyone tell me the contact details for immigration?
Do they speak english? ( I've heard that they don't). |
You will be lucky if they speak enough English to hold a steady conversation. Bring a J friend if you can't speak enough Japanese.
http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/english/info/index.html |
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Gaijinheadpothead
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:37 am Post subject: |
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So, I rang the Immi info centre and the guy told me that it's ok to stay in the country as long as an application has been made. I told him that I don't have a stamp or anything and he said it's ok, ''Just wait for the postcard'', he said.
It still doesn't feel right.
Meanwhile, my guest house want me to leave unless I can show them some legal evidence that I'm allowed to stay.
I have a chance to go to Immigration on Monday and look for this stamp. But I can't understand why both my company and immi told me to just wait without saying anything about this application stamp? It doesn't seem very Japanese that I'm being told to just ignore my expired visa and only have verbal assurances to let me know my visa status.
Am I freakin out about this too much? |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 1546 Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:39 am Post subject: |
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Go and see them since you can. You want to make absolutely certain that your company did indeed put in your app and aren't trying to pull a fast one. And what happens if you stay past your expiry date and get IDed by the police... I'm pretty sure they won't simply take your word for it that your app is being processed.
Get a stamp, seal, receipt... anything that will prove that you are permitted to overstay due to having you app processed. Not only for the police should you be stopped, but to keep the guesthouse owner from turfing you out on the street or (better still) calling the cops. |
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Bread
Joined: 24 May 2009 Posts: 318
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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I got a stamp AFTER I gave my COE to immigration. It was to prove that I'd submitted the application for my visa. Your visa application hasn't been submitted yet, just your COE application, unless I'm misunderstanding. I'd go to immigration ASAP and find out where you stand and get some kind of proof if it's okay to stay.
And that postcard was something that I'd filled out myself and they dropped it in the mail when my visa was ready to go in my passport. If you never filled out such a postcard, it ain't coming. |
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Gaijinheadpothead wrote: |
So, I rang the Immi info centre and the guy told me that it's ok to stay in the country as long as an application has been made. I told him that I don't have a stamp or anything and he said it's ok, ''Just wait for the postcard'', he said.
It still doesn't feel right. |
Why don't you believe immigration? The next step up in the process is to contact the Ministry of Justice, and they'd be pretty indignant if you did.
Get down to immigration on Monday, and the first question you should ask is whether they even have your visa application in process. Some employers lie about it until teachers overstay.
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Meanwhile, my guest house want me to leave unless I can show them some legal evidence that I'm allowed to stay.
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What would they like? |
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Gaijinheadpothead
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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What is a COE anyway? I think my company are definitely leading me on here. They won't tell me anything, just ''don't worry, don't worry''.
I've got the feeling that I when I go to immi they won't have any file on me and no application.
When I told my company I'm goin to immi to get this stamp they just said, ''oh yeah. Well call us and tell us what happens.''!!
I mean what the hell? That's like something you say to a hamster before you blast em off into space. |
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seklarwia
Joined: 20 Jan 2009 Posts: 1546 Location: Monkey onsen, Nagano
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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Well at least they didn't try to convince you that you REALLY didn't need to go. That's got to count for something... right?
Get down to immigration Monday and find out for certain what's going on.
I hope it works out for you. Let us know what they say. |
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