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scot47
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veiledsentiments
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So wait... a car clipped one of cyclists... then another turned around and hit the victim head on...
But, the police decided that there was no "foul play" ... and the embassy agreed?
Well, that confirms that the two drivers were Saudi, while the bicyclists were not. 
VS
(although I have to say that I consider it borderline insanity to even think of riding a bicycle in Gulf traffic... any of the countries) |
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johnslat
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"One of the drivers is then alleged to have turned around and driven straight into the cyclists."
"He said it would be the Saudi authorities� responsibility to determine if there was a �guilty party� involved.
Riyadh police spokesperson Maj. Sami Al-Shwaerikh ruled out the involvement of foul play. He confirmed that investigations were still being carried out and the results would be announced soon."
Now there's a time-saver: the verdict is in before the investigation and its results are known.
And yet, there are those who slur Saudi efficiency.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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Not a slur, per se, but I consider riyadh, itself, to be a tragic accident.
It reminds me of the article I read way back in the Arab News of the "tragic death" of a World-class saudi cyclist who was run over whilst training in the mountains of Asir by a saudi driver...like what VS said, I considered him to have taunted Death...
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johnslat
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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johnslat
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Dear NCTBA,
Most definitely - I even have a photo of me at the base of the bike somewhere. But I couldn't find a picture of the "Thumb" statue that was at an intersection next to where I was living in the early 80s.
What I did find was this:
http://susieofarabia.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/dscf8948-1.jpg
which I don't recall seeing anywhere. Maybe it was added after I moved to Riyadh.
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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oldgit
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It's just outside Prince Sultan's palace - on, er, Prince Sultan Street. Been there for almost 20 years to my knowledge. |
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johnslat
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Dear oldgit,
Thanks - but I may be an oldergit than even you. I left Jeddah in 1984 for Riyadh. So, it likely went up after that.
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oldgit
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Of course, it's now known locally by its French name "l'oinqueur"
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oldgit
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Of course, it's now known locally by its French name "l'oinqueur"
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed
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It's quite ironic that Qasr Amir Sultan is located on Sharaah Amir Sultan, no? Or, should I use "coincidental" in this case?  ...  ...
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lazycomputerkids
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"One of the drivers is then alleged to have turned around and driven straight into the cyclists."
"He said it would be the Saudi authorities� responsibility to determine if there was a �guilty party� involved.
Riyadh police spokesperson Maj. Sami Al-Shwaerikh ruled out the involvement of foul play. He confirmed that investigations were still being carried out and the results would be announced soon."
Now there's a time-saver: the verdict is in before the investigation and its results are known.
And yet, there are those who slur Saudi efficiency.
Regards,
John |
http://bicycleuniverse.info/transpo/almanac-safety.html
"Bike injury stats are under-reported, because the police often don't even bother...
"Deaths from Cars. Car emissions kill 30,000 people and car collisions kill 46,000 each year in the U.S. (2) Of these, 25,136 were a result of road departure, 9,213 intersection-related, and 4,749 were pedestrians."
"Motorists usually at fault. "
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"U.S. cyclists are three more likely to be killed than German cyclists and six times more than Dutch cyclists
"Four states lead cycling deaths. Four states (California, Florida, New York, and Texas) accounted for 43% of bicycle deaths in 1999. |
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johnslat
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Dear LCK,
Interesting statistics - though perhaps of only glancing relevance to the story involved.
Actually, if the "allegation" mentioned first is accurate, that was no accident.
It was vehicular homicide.
Regards,
John |
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