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Full Body Photographs / Showing Tattoos in Photos

 
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yeuxbleu



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:42 pm    Post subject: Full Body Photographs / Showing Tattoos in Photos Reply with quote

I have been requested by a Taiwanese employer to send not only a head shot from the past 6 months but also a full head to toe body shot. In the photograph I have, you can clearly see a large tattoo that I have on my right inner arm. Should I send them a photograph in which my tattoos are visible? Or should I take another picture in long sleeves and conceal the fact? Is this a primary reason why they would ask for a full body shot? From everything I hear, asking for these photographs is more common in Asian countries.
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, that's a first. Did they ask for your rap sheet too? Yes, I would suggest having another photo taken with the tattoos covered.

Chances are they won't help you get hired (the tattoos I mean). Tattoos here in Asia still have a lingering criminal element image, even though amongst younger people they have a more stylistic image. Unfortunately, the young are not usually the people doing the hiring.
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creztor



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to know which employer it is? Obviously I can see many reasons why you won't reveal that, but it does seem to be extreme. Cover it up with a long sleeved shirt and take the photo again. However, I think this might mean you will always need to wear a long sleeved shirt at work to avoid them seeing your tattoo. If you turn up in a short sleeved shirt with a visible tattoo, they might think you "cheated" them and could quickly cancel your contract due to some BS reason.
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Insubordination



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geez, why do they need the full body shot? Next they'll be asking for naked photos.
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yeuxbleu



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the replies!
The company is Hess, which I had thought was one of the best known schools in Taiwan so thought the request was strange, but that if Hess was asking other people may have heard about this.
I guess I will take another photo where you cannot see my tattoo, but I guess I may be wearing long sleeves the whole time! This was and still is a big question for me - should I be up front and honest and tell prospective employers? Or conceal who I really am and live a lie and just hope they never find out?
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Ariadne



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think that hiding one's tattoos is living a lie anymore than if a woman covers her cleavage while working. It just makes good sense.

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johnslat



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2010 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Or conceal who I really am and live a lie and just hope they never find out?"


Lordy - EFL gets more and more like real life every day.

Regards,
John
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gaijinalways



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This was and still is a big question for me - should I be up front and honest and tell prospective employers? Or conceal who I really am and live a lie and just hope they never find out?



You could always have it removed, the tattoo that is.

As to who you really are, for most of my colleagues I have no idea who they really are (though in some cases I am willing to concede I probably don't care too much either that I don't know).

Then again, having some secrets in Asia is a usual thing.
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khmerhit



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Angleina Jolie doesnt hide the tattoo she got in




















C A M B O D I A
try it and see Laughing
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear khmerhit,

Much as I would enjoy having Angelina Jolie as a colleague, I have serious doubts about her ever applying for an ESL/EFL position.
But if she ever did, I'd love to see ALL her tattoos. Smile

Regards,
John
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stillnosheep



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even the ones she didn't get in Cambodia?
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Mrguay84



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about photoshop? It must be easy enough to 'get rid' of a small tat.
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yeuxbleu



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy if i looked like angelina jolie i could probably get away with anything. unfortunately i'm not so lucky, and i'm not having my tattoos removed. i'm stocking up on long sleeved shirts instead.
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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: Full Body Photographs / Showing Tattoos in Photos Reply with quote

yeuxbleu wrote:
Should I send them a photograph in which my tattoos are visible? Or should I take another picture in long sleeves and conceal the fact? Is this a primary reason why they would ask for a full body shot? From everything I hear, asking for these photographs is more common in Asian countries.


Yes, take one where you can-t see your artwork. Reason for the full body shot, I don-t know. I-ve had Asian countries request it as well. Maybe to see that you-re "ok" physically, have all your limbs, and aren't fat. Being fat will get you stared at in Asia.
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Justin Trullinger



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an opinion I might add- I don't send photos to prospective employers. Not headshots, not full length...the practice has just always seemed discriminatory to me.

Of course, I can't really be sure, but it doesn't seem to have negatively impacted my employment.


Best,
Justin
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