|
Job Discussion Forums "The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
|
View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
kalulu
Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 4 Location: Jiangsu
|
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:59 am Post subject: what to do about schedule overload |
|
|
Second term started last week and my schedule (delivered 17 hours before the first class) has me teaching four 90-minute "Listening & Speaking" classes to Class A each week, and four 90-minute IELTS classes to Class B each week, all students I had last semester, and all students not English majors.
My sister and I are the only two FTs at our (low tier) college. She has four Oral English classes each week, each with a different class, and after this month will get two Culture classes, each with a different class. Soooo, this means, she will have a total of 2 lesson plans to repeat throughout the week, and I have 8.
Our contract says nothing of out-of-classroom working hours, and of course, we've been provided terribly inadequate teaching material. My FAO does not seem to realize the enormity of lesson planning my schedule requires and said the schedule is "not his authority." It's also not the English Dept.'s because my classes belong to another dept. (I have zilch interaction with the English Dept. anyway.)
What recourse do I have when on the surface my schedule abides the contract's limit of 16 teaching hours per week?
Any advice will be much appreciated! |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
ttorriel
Joined: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 193
|
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:04 am Post subject: |
|
|
Where is the problem? Why not just do the work you've agreed to do? 16 hours is nothing and you admit that there is no conflict contractually. You agreed to do the work, so why not just do it? |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
kalulu
Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 4 Location: Jiangsu
|
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:16 am Post subject: |
|
|
Let me clarify: the problem is that the schedule requires a LOT of out-of-classroom work that I'm not compensated for and that I don't have materials from the school to help me. I'm drowning in lesson planning every night bc I've never done this teaching thing before and don't have guidance from the school.
If I were able to repeat one Oral English lesson plan and one Writing lesson plan throughout the week like the other FTs I know I wouldn't have a problem with 16 hours. But creating two new lesson plans every night for the next day seems an unreasonable and uncompensated demand of my time. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
MisterButtkins
Joined: 03 Oct 2009 Posts: 1221
|
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:21 am Post subject: |
|
|
That's rough but at least you get the same kids 4 times a week. You can actually get to know them. Right now I have seven 90 minute classes per week, all with different students, which is great because it's not a lot of work, but I doubt I'll learn more than a few of the kids' names before the end of the semester, much less get to know them as people.
Really your course of action here depends on how seriously you take your job as a teacher. If you are okay with using 'less than optimal' teaching methods it's quite easy to lesson plan for many hours in a small amount of time. If you have a textbook you can even just wing it on the spot, if you're good at improvising. Of course this is probably not a responsible thing to do, you are contributing to China's educational problems, you are making a bad name for foreign teachers, etc... |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
johntpartee
Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 3258
|
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 10:40 am Post subject: |
|
|
Question: Have they violated the contract you signed?
If the answer is "no", .... |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
gene
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 187
|
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:08 am Post subject: |
|
|
Quote: |
Let me clarify: the problem is that the schedule requires a LOT of out-of-classroom work that I'm not compensated for and that I don't have materials from the school to help me. |
While I share your frustration as to the uncompensated hours of work,(I have quite a bit of travel as my home is far away from my two duty stations) this is normal in the profession you have chosen, incl. native western countries with teaching unions. Several years ago the contract in Canada only allowed 90 mins of prep time and we all know that is not enough. Try and pick materials from the net as it is the only source you may have access to and tailor the lesson plans to adapt to the different classes. If your prepared in the smallest way, it will likely be much more than many employers expect from their foreign teachers. Good luck and hang in there. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Silent Shadow
Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 380 Location: A stones throw past the back of beyond
|
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:14 am Post subject: |
|
|
johntpartee wrote: |
Question: Have they violated the contract you signed?
If the answer is "no", .... |
It's not that simple. The OP has a very valid grievance. johntpartee, I suppose if your school suddenly sprang this schedule on you 17 hours before the new semester you would just suck it up?
Personally, I would refuse such a schedule. 16 hours in the contract be damned. For the quality I like to put into my lessons I often find myself using up many hours to prepare when meeting classes just once a week. If I was trying to teach that sort of schedule, I'd be pulling my hair out. It's impractical, totally unreasonable, and is not conducive to quality education. OK, this is China. However, they could surely try better than this.
Kalulu, go to whomever is responsible for your schedule and politely but firmly reason with them. Tell them that you do not object to teaching your contractually agreed schedule of 16 lessons, but...
Tell them you believe in quality over quantity; that it would be better for your students if they had a fresh teacher who had time to prepare one good lesson a week instead of a tired, burnt-out teacher teaching four mediocre ones.
It would help if you had a good rapport with your leaders. If you do have a good rapport, and they are reasonable, and you follow the above advice, I think you might have a good chance at getting changed to a more reasonable schedule.
All the best. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
johntpartee
Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 3258
|
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:32 am Post subject: |
|
|
Quote: |
I suppose if your school suddenly sprang this schedule on you 17 hours before the new semester you would just suck it up? |
Yes, I would and I have. In fact, on one occasion I had fifteen hours notice of my schedule; from what I've gathered on this site from other teachers, this is fairly common. I'm not saying it's a good thing, but it happens. From some of the other situations that teachers have reported here, this hardly qualifies as "abuse". Poor planning, lack of consideration, inept administration, yes. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
The Ever-changing Cleric

Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 1523
|
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:04 pm Post subject: |
|
|
if you're expected to prepare and deliver a different lesson for each class every week, its too much. not sure what i can add to help out, but i can tell you (if you dont already know) there are tons of lesson plans available online that can be downloaded and used with minimal adjustment. at least it will save you some time. failing that, if the school isn't prepared to help you out by lessening the burden on you, tell them to pound salt and find a new job. and take your sister with you. the school might actually see the light.
good luck anyway. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Sugar & Spice
Joined: 11 Feb 2010 Posts: 73
|
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
"...if your school suddenly sprang this schedule on you 17 hours before the new semester you would just suck it up? ..."
Notice is always nice. They could have told/asked her last term if she/he could do it.
Since the school's management didn't deem fit to tell you that you would teach the same group 4x a week for 90 minutes each, let the kids suffer.
In the end, most schools really don't care about Oral English classes. It is just something that they must do, at the last minute no less!
Something similar happened to me in the past and I quit. I said I was told 1 class a week and now you want 2 a week, 3 days before school began. If they had told me sooner, I would have prepared and been ready, but...
I'm still here = I got my letters. WHAT A CROCK THAT IS. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
gene
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 187
|
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:22 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Quote: |
If I was trying to teach that sort of schedule, I'd be pulling my hair out. It's impractical, totally unreasonable, and is not conducive to quality education. |
This is not a unusual work load for a teacher. Outside prep is expected in the teaching profession and even though you may not be a certified teacher, you have chosen to work in a field that sometimes requires the effort and comparing schedules is not an indication of an overload anymore than it would be it you were a professional teacher. I have witnessed many a stance on these post as to the dignity deserved by the foreign teachers, even those who lack the necessary education requirement to attain that status back in the west so all and all it would be better to focus on how to accomplish the task than how to avoid work. Like it or not, this is the job. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Silent Shadow
Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 380 Location: A stones throw past the back of beyond
|
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 3:27 am Post subject: |
|
|
gene wrote: |
Quote: |
If I was trying to teach that sort of schedule, I'd be pulling my hair out. It's impractical, totally unreasonable, and is not conducive to quality education. |
This is not a unusual work load for a teacher. Outside prep is expected in the teaching profession and even though you may not be a certified teacher, you have chosen to work in a field that sometimes requires the effort and comparing schedules is not an indication of an overload anymore than it would be it you were a professional teacher. I have witnessed many a stance on these post as to the dignity deserved by the foreign teachers, even those who lack the necessary education requirement to attain that status back in the west so all and all it would be better to focus on how to accomplish the task than how to avoid work. Like it or not, this is the job. |
Hello gene.
You've made some good points, but I don't agree.
I'm sure that you will agree that for a serious teacher (educator), the students come first. Now think about the schedule that the OP has received. He has to come up with eight different lessons a week, compared to the more common load of two or three different lessons for a college or university teacher. Admittedly, the OP mentioned that his college is low teir, but as it is a college, that is supposed to provide higher education, his students and parents will expect a fairly high quality lesson. College and university classes in particular should be challenging, stimulating, enjoyble and creative. To provide such lessons a teacher needs a reasonable amount of time to prepare. At the same time a teacher needs enough time to be able to relax, have hobbies and follow other pursuits that will keep him refreshed enough to deliver good lessons.
The schedule that the OP has, gives most teachers (at least those who are mere mortals), by and large two choices. First, spending virtually all their spare time preparing good lessons that will surely lead to burnout halfway through the semester, or secondly becoming a survival teacher, churning out mediocre dross or worse, just to get through. In both those circumstances the student will suffer; in fact in the former instance so would the teacher. If the teacher burns out then of course the students suffer, even more.
I didn't say that teachers should not have to prepare outside of class. That would be ridiculous. Most of my work as a university teacher is done outside of class and that is to be expected. There should however be reasonable limits, for the sake of the students and the goal of producing higher education (Which is what college/ university education is supposed to be about).
I don't think that there is anything wrong in a teacher challenging the authority of his leaders in a school if he thinks that their policy seriously obstructs the ability of said teacher in providing good quality education to his students. Thus, if I was in such a circumstance that the OP finds himself in, I would do my utmost to persuade my employers to reduce my load of lesson preparation to a more reasonable amount of three (still agreeing to teach 16 in total, though). I would, though, be respectful and polite in my approach, and would tell them everything that I've mentioned in this post. One reason I try to build a good rapport with my leaders is to try to make it easier to be able to persuade them what I think is best for my students. A teacher who is genuinely concerned about being able to, provide, a stimulating, challenging, enjoyable and creative lesson, everytime he steps into the classroom to teach those who he has been given charge of, would generally not agree to such a schedule, because burnout/ mediocre lessons; either one or both, will almost inevitably follow. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
kukiv
Joined: 13 Dec 2009 Posts: 328
|
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 4:06 am Post subject: |
|
|
Quote: |
I'm sure that you will agree that for a serious teacher (educator), the students come first. |
Very much agree with that last post!!!! For the students to have any chance of coming first - the teacher has to work within their capabilities. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
Silent Shadow
Joined: 18 Oct 2007 Posts: 380 Location: A stones throw past the back of beyond
|
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:01 am Post subject: |
|
|
kukiv wrote: |
Quote: |
I'm sure that you will agree that for a serious teacher (educator), the students come first. |
Very much agree with that last post!!!! For the students to have any chance of coming first - the teacher has to work within their capabilities. |
Well said kukiv! |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
teachaus
Joined: 04 Apr 2009 Posts: 54
|
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:46 am Post subject: |
|
|
It is worth thinking about different types of activities that you can do which put the talking focus back onto the students - and giving them time in lesson to prepare for some of those tasks (with your help and guidance);. For example giving short speeches, class debates and small group discussions (reporting back to class after you have made a decision). For example part of my class lesson today had each student giving a 1-2 minute speech about someone who had inspired them. Later in the lesson after a couple of other things they had a discussion in their small group (3-4) students to decide who they thought were the top 5 inspiration people from anytime in China's history and why. In the groups reporting back to the class everyone in the group needed to speaki about at least one person. Another thing I have that flows through a big part of the semester is I found a few pronunication poems online and use one which each of my different classes - we learn a verse each week and review previous verses (later it become an assessment task when they read the poem to me - but a long the way it helps improve their pronunciation on some words). It is worth considering finding a topic of theme for the week and finding/thinking up a few different activities like speches / debates / discussions that the stiudents can work on over more than one lesson - For example part of one lesson might be preparing for a debate - and having the dabate in a following lesson. I think in your position I would be planning for the week rather than for one lesson - and I think that might make your planning feel less overwhelming. |
|
Back to top |
|
 |
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling. Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group
|