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NorthofAmerica
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 Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 3:40 am Post subject: Corporate teaching in Taipei? Or other locales? |
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Hey all,
I am about 99% on pulling a google and abandoning this wretched mainland. When looking at the differences in jobs though I keep seeing corporate teaching jobs here in the mainland but most listings for Taiwan seem to be elementary schools and perhaps cram schools.
Are there corporate teaching gigs in Taiwan, specifically Taipei? How do I find them?
I have 3 years experience teaching small groups, large uni classes, corporate classes, and academic prep classes so if I arrive with resumes in hand should I be able to find work relatively quickly? |
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JZer
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| Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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The only work you will find is with an agency. From what I have seen (meaning maybe someone else knows the secrets of this business) most corporate jobs are controlled by companies. They get the contracts and farm you out.
From what I heard you can get 1,100 NT an hour teaching corporate classes in China. What do you usually get paid for corporate classes in China? In Taiwan you will get 700-800NT with the company earning 600NT from you going to a company to teach. |
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KaiFeng
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| Posted: Mon May 17, 2010 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Corporate is the way to go. I've made NT$1600 an hour from many companies with no pushback.
However, you have to look the part. Business attire, briefcase, business cards, familiarity with business writing and presentations, a reading knowledge of Fortune, Business Week, The Asian Wall Street Journal, etc. Read up on marketing, consulting, books like Networking with the Affluent, etc. Look the part. Definitely worked for me, though 99% of folks don't make the effort.
I posted some stuff here a couple of years back about the corporate market in Taiwan; you might care to look it up.
It takes time to build up a practice (and you must think of it that way) but I was in it for the long haul, and it was worth the effort. |
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NorthofAmerica
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For some reason my internet is all messed up (China!) and when I use my DSL a variety of odd problems pop up, for example the search page freezes on this site.
Any chance you could post a link? |
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KaiFeng
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| Posted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| NorthofAmerica wrote: |
For some reason my internet is all messed up (China!) and when I use my DSL a variety of odd problems pop up, for example the search page freezes on this site.
Any chance you could post a link? |
Here's my (severely un-updated) blog, which contains the same material: the-esl-life.blogspot.com.
I am currently stateside with kids in college, and when the nest is empty my wife and I will likely return, me to the corporate training circuit. I'll be using the exact methods I describe.
The only thing I'll do differently is I'll pick up a couple of marketable management certifications over the next few years (PMP and Six Sigma come to mind as obvious candidates) and start out by positioning myself as a management consultant. This puts you ahead of (conservatively) 99.9% of the folks who teach ESL because you are then regarded as a management consultant who also knows ESL (though you should refer to it as not ESL but, as I did, "language training" or "language development"). Mind you, there is still some effort in getting started in any new market/line of business, but it's worth the effort.
My experience has been in Taiwan, but I suspect the deal in China is not altogether different. The work laws might be quite different. |
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NorthofAmerica
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Well, blogspot is totally blocked in the mainland and I don't have a good vpn or proxy working right now but I will try and take a look if/when I get the chance.
God I miss the internet |
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KaiFeng
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| NorthofAmerica wrote: |
Well, blogspot is totally blocked in the mainland and I don't have a good vpn or proxy working right now but I will try and take a look if/when I get the chance.
God I miss the internet |
Sux! Maybe one of your students could help you connect with a proxy... |
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Shimokitazawa
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when I was teaching corporates about 8 or 9 years ago with a company called Williams English they were paying us NT $600 an hour.
I later heard that the companies were paying Williams around NT $2, 000 an hour!
Anyone know if Williams English is still around doing corporate English classes in Taipei? |
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Shimokitazawa
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| Posted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:37 am Post subject: |
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| KaiFeng wrote: |
Corporate is the way to go. I've made NT$1600 an hour from many companies with no pushback.
However, you have to look the part. Business attire, briefcase, business cards, familiarity with business writing and presentations, a reading knowledge of Fortune, Business Week, The Asian Wall Street Journal, etc. Read up on marketing, consulting, books like Networking with the Affluent, etc. Look the part. Definitely worked for me, though 99% of folks don't make the effort.
I posted some stuff here a couple of years back about the corporate market in Taiwan; you might care to look it up.
It takes time to build up a practice (and you must think of it that way) but I was in it for the long haul, and it was worth the effort. |
i had a chuckle when I read this. that's cool you were professional and sounds like you were well- prepared for your students. But when you say you gotta "Look the Part", I saw guys showing up in shorts and flip flops way back then, going in to teach their "Business Classes". lots of guys back then didn't even have degrees and were teaching on simple landing visas or those 30-day / 60-day extendable visas. maybe things have changed in taiwan, yeah? |
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