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meyanga



Joined: 02 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:11 am    Post subject: killer heels Reply with quote

Hi

I am moving to Jeddah soon and have been searching through old posts to find out about what clothes are suitable for life there.

I would appreciate it if someone could please refute/confirm the following -

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goingbald wrote

Tips:

1. Don't wear clicky, heeled shoes. You will draw unwanted and unnecessary attention to yourself.

2. Whether you're a Muslim or not, you must cover your hair in public at all times. Many women, and men, display simple ignorance of this obligation, or deliberate arrogance. One related benefit is that you are less likely to draw attention from the youth in the malls.



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Cleopatra



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Location: Tuamago Archipelago

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who posted this 'advice'?????

Here in even-more-conservative Riyadh, I hardly ever step outside the door without 10cm heels!!! I reckon if I were ever to be nuts enough to run a marathon, I'd insist on doing it in heels! So yes, you can wear your Manolos in Jeddah.

Regarding the second point, even here in Riyadh, plenty of non-Muslim (and even some Muslim) women do not cover their hair in public, and seem to get away with it most of the time. Personally, I always cover my hair, not out of any sense of 'obligation' but because I feel that I 'blend in' better that way and am less likely to draw unwanted attention. I generally advise women to cover their hair in Riyadh, at least when they're out on the street or walking around alone, but it's not that big a deal. Jeddah is somewhat more 'liberal' than Riyadh so if you really don't want to cover your hair, it shouldn't be a problem for the most part.


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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now if you are in Buraidah or Qassim it is different. Here in ultra-liberal Dhahran I often see women in public without abayas. Many do not cover their hair. Some wear abayas. Some wear "modest" clothes.

Don't listen to what the propagandists say about KSA. Half of it is not true.
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meyanga



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank God!

There are lots of adjustments I am more than happy to make - but wearing flat shoes everyday is just not one of them! Very Happy

Thanks Cleo
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Cleopatra



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Couldn't agree more.

Abaya and headscarf - no problem. Flats every day - no way. There are some things a girl just can't compromise on, and a woman's right to shoes is one of those.
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Mia Xanthi



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Location: why is my heart still in the Middle East while the rest of me isn't?

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cleopatra is right. Heels are not a problem at all. The beauty of the abaya is that you can wear whatever you want underneath it, including outrageous shoes.

What you wear outside the abaya is up to you and it does depend on the norms in the area where you live. In Dhahran, most foreign women do not cover their hair. I covered my hair when I first arrived because it made me feel more comfortable. I no longer cover it at all, but I do try to bring a headscarf along in case circumstances warrant covering my hair.

If you are a non-Muslim, it can feel like you are giving off the wrong signals with your hair covered. Many people in the EP will assume that you are Muslim or the wife of a Saudi if you cover your hair. Not covering your hair, at least in the EP, is in some ways a more honest type of communication to those around you.
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007



Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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Location: UK/Veteran of the Magic Kingdom

PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Who posted this 'advice'?????

goingbald.


Quote:
I hardly ever step outside the door without 10cm heels!!!

Tante Cleo, don't you think 10 cm heels is too high, and will increase your chance to an accident when walking in the streets of the magic kingdom!
Height by 10 cm! Why? Do you want to be taller than Uncle Scotty and teta Mia? Laughing

I though only short women wear shoes with high heels so that they feel taller and 'proud' in front of the same and opposite sex!

I think, in the magic kingdom and elsewhere, a petite woman is always better with a medium to low heel ( less than 7 cm), so that she can feel that her 'silhouette' is more longer!

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There are some things a girl just can't compromise on, and a woman's right to shoes is one of those.

I wonder if men have the same right to shoes? Laughing

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The beauty of the abaya is that you can wear whatever you want underneath it, including outrageous shoes.

But, teta Mia, as far as I know, outrageous shoes are not worn underneath abaya, they are worn bottom of the abaya, and are not covered!
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Mia Xanthi



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote