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[goodwork002002]

One way such a "Top 10" could be codified (and be more teacher-centric/serving than school-centric/serving)... time consuming ... but I'd be a ready volunteer ... is to invite input here on Dave's for ESL Teacher input on objective criteria by which each personally evaluates the "Potential Quotient" (potential of the teaching experience in each/every facet) of an ESL School experience .... all those objective criteria ... through an on-going dialog get synthesized to a workable number (that nevertheless does not eliminate any critical 'concept' for evaluating) ... then again through dialog gain how one might word a 1 to 5 objective rating of each ..... get all that in some final form and invite all the ESL Teachers who would take the probably 10-15 minutes to fill out a "PQ" form on each school they'd experienced (with some sort of weighting on 3 month versus 2 or 5 year experiences , new teacher versus Training Director experiences)

Then make the results universally available to all extant & potential China ESL Teachers ....

What schools earned 5's or high 4's versus the 1's and 2's would be noted.

Possibly the lowers would need to pay higher and/or work on improving.

The survey could be redone every 6 months.

Noting also how different teachers rated differently the same school and seek to understand why.

If it was broadly disseminated and ESL Teacher effective ... it might very well educate China ESL Schools on values & criteria & operating standards to hold as standards of excellence.

As to the "big rush" to 5's .... well if 6 months later the old 5's crashed to below 4 or 3 .... then the China ESL Teacher Community would be alert to the school's abuse of it's "fifteen minutes" of celebrity.

There's my thoughts on it.

ANY CHINA HAND" ESL TEACHER RESPONSE ??????????

[ttorriel]

Why start another thread?

Why don't we start by rating the teachers by how drunk they are, how abusive to the host country's rules/policies/procedures/laws, ignorant of the culture, fraudulent documents, willingness to work illegally, and... too many things to mention.

So why should we take the word of sub-par, wholly unqualified individuals to rate schools?

[goodwork002002]

Certainly data only mirrors source. All you write is, at the least, one reality of the ESL Teacher in China scene.

And yet ... I have been graced with the loveliest of concerned and quite professional communications about teaching in China from person's who seem both sober and compassionate, while providing objective insights from their own hard earned cautionary tales.

Like life ... it is complex ... until it is simple.