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With whom to choose as a starting point to teach?

 
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Shawn Taylor



Joined: 06 Apr 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:12 am    Post subject: With whom to choose as a starting point to teach? Reply with quote

Ok, I recently posted in the Japan section with regards to teaching in Japan however, I share similar interest for Indonesia. Hence this one.

From what I have read around the place there seems to be a lot of dodgy recruiters out there so I am sure you can understand why I am posting this, alike with a thousand others that have come before me.

Who would you suggest as a good starting point for someone with little exprience?

I would love to get any information I can, and any information given is most appreciated.

Regards,

Shawn
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father Mackenzie



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
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Location: Jakarta Barat

PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Shawn,

EF, TBI, ILP are 3 organisations that recruit teachers who are just starting out.

Good luck
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Shawn Taylor



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

father Mackenzie wrote:
Hi Shawn,

EF, TBI, ILP are 3 organisations that recruit teachers who are just starting out.

Good luck


Thank you for your response. Where do these three organisations post their job adds in particular, on here?

Any more information with regards to these three would be great. But, I shall definitely have a look around and see what I can find.

Thanks again,

Shawn
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basiltherat



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EEC, Slipi is another place worth exploring, i believe. not sure if they have moved up the ladder and require loads of experience etc. can anyone correct me ? still may be worth looking in there.

btw, how is olde eec going nowadays. is GJ still as inconsistent ?

best
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Shawn Taylor



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

basiltherat wrote:
EEC, Slipi is another place worth exploring, i believe. not sure if they have moved up the ladder and require loads of experience etc. can anyone correct me ? still may be worth looking in there.

btw, how is olde eec going nowadays. is GJ still as inconsistent ?

best
basil Very Happy


A fellow english'man (was born in the midlands). Have you worked in Indo at all? I will look them up though thanks for that.

Shawn
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Shawn Taylor



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Every time i send an email requesting more information with regards to a position in Indo I never get a reply.

I find this rather interesting. I'm not sure why, unless they get many applicants they feel no need to respond to my inquiry.

hmm.
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scooby doo



Joined: 30 Oct 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shawn Taylor wrote:
Every time i send an email requesting more information with regards to a position in Indo I never get a reply.

I find this rather interesting. I'm not sure why, unless they get many applicants they feel no need to respond to my inquiry.

hmm.


Indeed, there are more applicants than jobs.

Also, you said you have little experience. That could be why. (though it doesn't explain why you get NO responses).

Are you sending your cv and cover letter? If you're just asking questions and not giving much in return, recruiters get the impression that you're just 'fishing' around and won't waste time answering your emails.

If you are sending in a proper application with cv, maybe it just needs a bit of work? If that's the case, I think you'll find some good advice here:

http://edition.tefl.net/articles/career/job-application-tips/
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malu



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scooby doo wrote:


Indeed, there are more applicants than jobs.



This is a fairly recent development and I don't think it applies evenly across the board. There are a few dismal hellholes around the archipelago where it is still hard to attract applicants, but it is true that Indo is no longer the seller's market that it used to be. In part this is due to lifting of travel warnings, partly because of poor economic conditions in the home countries , and also because some of the better paid postings such as in Japan and the Gulf have dried up or lost their lustre.
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markustm



Joined: 15 Mar 2010
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:40 pm    Post subject: A Saturated Market? Reply with quote

It used to be easy to work in Indonesia, and often teachers were hired on the spot, as long as they were presentable, and reasonably qualified.

Those days are over. Once you could walk into a school, and see the owner or the DOS immediately (They want to meet you). Now, the DOS only wants your CV, and you may wait months for an interview.

Many schools do not even bother replying to an email, which is rude but a fact of life in the new Indonesia.

Malu is correct, Indonesia is saturated with applicants, and even qualified people are waiting to find a job.

Your best change is EF, or a school in "Ugly" Indonesia- Bekasi, Tangerang or a distant suburban wasteland like Bintaro, or BSD City.

Good luck..........................
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Tudor



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard on the grapevine that TBI Kuningan are currently experiencing something of a "mini-exodus" of teachers so, for those in the market for a job, it may be worth applying there. I wouldn't fret too much about lack of experience and/or qualifications, they can only say "no" at the end of the day.
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Chris Patton



Joined: 19 Sep 2006
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Location: Bumi Serpong Damai

PostPosted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:36 am    Post subject: Re: A Saturated Market? Reply with quote

markustm wrote:
a distant suburban wasteland like Bintaro, or BSD City..


Hey! Some of us actually like the suburbs. BSD is relatively quiet and clean, and you can get everything you need here. It certainly isn't a "wasteland".

One thing we really don't have here is nightlife. If you enjoy going out clubbing, or even for a quiet drink somewhere, it is rather distant.

OP, you should think about what kind of environment you want to live in. If you're a city boy, then maybe you want to look at more central neighbourhoods, but if you enjoy the quiet life, then the suburbs may suit you. There are certainly branches of EF and TBI in various suburbs as well as numerous other schools of differing size and quality.

Feel free to PM me if you want more info about BSD City or EF.

cheers;

Chris Patton
DoS
EF BSD-Tangerang
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