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Kanga



Joined: 07 Apr 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:29 am    Post subject: Vegetarian in Jakarta Reply with quote

The local rag, The Jakarta Post published an article this week describing Indonesia as 'A true haven for vegans'(http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2010/04/04/a-true-haven-vegans.html). Actually that's probably a bit rich. Still, speaking as a twenty year veteran of trans-national vegetarianism, Indonesia is not too bad for us vegos. Soy based tofu and tempeh dishes are available pretty much everywhere in Java, although less so in Sumatra. Vegetable and fruits are not only "in abundance", but of excellent quality, and cheap as well. A couple of my personal favourites are ketupat tahu (tofu, bean sprouts and 'real' peanut sauce) and gudeg (a jackfruit curry). Always served, of course, with lashings of chilli sambal!
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Henry_Cowell



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're a true vegan, you'll always want to make sure that your "vegetarian" tofu and tempe and peanut-sauce dishes contain no terasi (shrimp paste) or other fish/shellfish products. It's not always a given that your so-called vegetarian dishes in Indonesia will be completely plant based unless you guarantee it with the cook. Wink
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malu



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed, prawns and their derivatives seem to be considered an honorary vegetable by most chefs here. It is a bit like Germany in times past where salads and veg dishes invariably came adorned with 'Speck' (flakes of smokey bacon).
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bule_boy69



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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Henry_Cowell wrote:
It's not always a given that your so-called vegetarian dishes in Indonesia will be completely plant based unless you guarantee it with the cook. Wink


And explained/checked very carefully too! Even friend tempe might have a bit of beef stock powder or the like thrown in when soaked. You might explain to a guy selling Nasi goreng that you don't eat meat only to find lumps of bakso decorating the plate - dont like bakso missterr? just push it to the side then.

Describing it as a haven for vegans is more than a bit rich in my opinion. While shopping in the market and cooking at home is easy enough, eating out is a pain. As food is for indo culture what beer is for a lot of westerners, that can be a problem when socialising with the locals.

I popped into the Loving Hut in Plaza Semanggi the other day and got a mag which had a list of vegetarian restaurants in it. There are a lot more in Jakarta than I realised. This being because I live in central Jakarta, but they are mostly in areas with larger Chinese populations. After that I did a quick internet search (why didn't that occur to me before?) and was pleasantly surprised.

Someone told me recently that the oil used might not be suitable for vegetarians. Anyone got a clue what they were on about? I know the oil has probably been used for the last ten years to fry chicken etc. but i assumed it would be some generic coconut based stuff.
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Chris Patton



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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a vegetarian, but I have worked with many over the years. There is a place in BSD simply called "vegetarian restaurant" that has always got good reviews from teachers here.

I've been there myself a few times and found it quite good (aside from the lack of meat) and very clean.

It's on "Golden Road" the main stretch running through BSD and is near the Melati Mas development. It's quite cheap and have some English speaking staff.

I'm afraid I have no idea about the oil used and what difference that makes.
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bule_boy69



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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Chris,

To clarify, I was referring to the oil used by indonesian food vendors in general and not in vegetarian restaurants.

If anyone else has got any info or recommendations, don't be shy!
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father Mackenzie



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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some cooking oils depending on grading can hold the smell and taste of fried meats which can make vegetarian food taste pretty bad.
The problem with cooking oil and restaurants is that whilst vegetarian food is prepared and kept separate from meat, when it is cooked it is normally cooked in the oil that is being used at the time.
Cooking oil can be reused for awhile until it becomes dirty and then it needs to be replaced. When I say dirty I mean full of food crumbs, darker in colour etc.
I guess it depends how much of a vegetarian someone is. When I was working in cafes and coffee shops there was always someone asking if the vegetarian products were cooked in separate oil from the meat and we always lied and said yes, except when they complained the vegetarian sausages tasted like chicken nuggets. Then we changed the oil, lied and said yes as oil was expensive.
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bule_boy69



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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

father Mackenzie wrote:
The problem with cooking oil and restaurants is that whilst vegetarian food is prepared and kept separate from meat, when it is cooked it is normally cooked in the oil that is being used at the time..


Exactly why I don't eat 'vegetarian' food from wartegs. But the oil they use here is (prior to being reused I mean) should be vegetable right?

Ta
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bananaf



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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not vegetarian, but I sure love vegetarian/vegan restaurants!

Don't think Jakarta's got plenty, but there's this place called The Loving Hut in Kemang, right next to 7/11, that I always go to at weekends. It's heavenly good! Plus the price ain't bad. Totally recommended!

Any other vegetarian restaurant recommendation in/around Jakarta?
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bananaf



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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bule_boy69 wrote:


I popped into the Loving Hut in Plaza Semanggi the other day


They've got a branch there? Where exactly is it?
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bule_boy69



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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2010 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Loving Hut is on the 3rd Floor.

Branch in Jatinegara (of all places) coming soon apparently!

http://lovinghut.co.id/kontak.shtml

Having just returned from more veggie friendly asian places, forking out 35000+ a visit seems a little extravagant to me, so I'm lookin around for cheaper. I don't mind cooking at home, but starting to get sick of HAVING to.

Stumbled across a little veggie warung in Cipinang (if you happen to be anywhere near there) with a good selection of dishes Rp10-20, which is more like it. They also sell a lot of frozen/dried products to use at home.
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bananaf



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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bule_boy69 wrote:
Loving Hut is on the 3rd Floor.

Branch in Jatinegara (of all places) coming soon apparently!

http://lovinghut.co.id/kontak.shtml

Having just returned from more veggie friendly asian places, forking out 35000+ a visit seems a little extravagant to me, so I'm lookin around for cheaper. I don't mind cooking at home, but starting to get sick of HAVING to.

Stumbled across a little veggie warung in Cipinang (if you happen to be anywhere near there) with a good selection of dishes Rp10-20, which is more like it. They also sell a lot of frozen/dried products to use at home.


Wooo they're seriously taking over the vegetarian market! I think I've never seen a vegetarian restaurant that could actually open as many branches before!

Unfortunately, I don't live around Cipinang, never even been there before! Razz Is it just the usual warung/warteg or is it actually a vegetarian-only warung?
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bule_boy69



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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an all veggie warung...quite a small place, no frills, the likes of which I am seeking in other areas.

Where are you then?

Yeah well, Cipinang isn't really a place you find foreigners aside from those in the prison busted for drugs n what have ya.

Ate in a place called Te He in Mangga Dua Square yesterday. Very nice and good selection - Jap/indo/western - similar prices to Lovin Hut. This could be another (hopefully) expanding empire coz the original branch is near PRJ Kemayoran.
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Eva_madison



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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2010 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All,

I'm a vegeatrian and thinking about heading to Indonesia to teach for a year and was wondering if people could give me more details on what it is really like to be a veg over there/ the kinds of things that are avaiable to eat...ect...

I spent a year in South Korea so I know that culturally things are goinbg to be different as such my stands are different. While I would love to have everything 100% free of meat, fish and seafood as I do here when I am abroad I am okay with broths and sauces being used that have traced amounts of these things as long as I am not directly consuming meat, fish or seafood.

I have found list of veg restuarnts online but as user have alrready said I am guessing they are too expensive to eat at everyday, so what is the local food like at non-veg restrurants for those of us who don't eat meat?

Is one area of Jakara better accomendating to vegetarians?

Thanks for all your help!!
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