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Is a 3-Year Bachelor Degree a Disadvantage? + Thai Question

 
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wayne1523



Joined: 02 Apr 2010
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Location: Toronto, Canada

PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:48 am    Post subject: Is a 3-Year Bachelor Degree a Disadvantage? + Thai Question Reply with quote

Hi everyone. My name's Wayne (22 years old) and I'm totally new here and this is my first post ever. I'm set to graduate this semester as a History Major from the University of Waterloo in Canada and I'm really excited of the prospect of teaching abroad, especially when I figured that I wanted to do it just a month ago.

I was wondering if, in general, it would be a disadvantage to try to teach abroad with only a 3-Year Degree (as I will be graduating with that) vs. the usual 4-year Degree. Would this be an impediment to finding part-time English teaching jobs around the world or would it only make it more difficult if I wished to be a full-time "Licensed Teacher" with a teaching certificate that actually teaches in specialized subjects? (ie: Math, English, History, Social Studies, etc.)

Also, is anybody here aware of a reliable and legitimate Thai program/school/website that is looking for English teachers that require only a Bachelor's Degree and offering a 5-6 month contract starting this coming Fall (August/September) which also does not require any registration fee (joint for TEFL certificate, etc.)? Thus far in my vigorous research, I have only found either websites offering 5-6 month contracts in Thailand that require a registration fee costing beyond a grand or two, or websites/programs that do not require a fee to be paid but obligates you to 10-12 month contracts.

As a freshly graduated student, my intention for now is to only travel around and see places like Thailand for about a half a year before considering any further whether I would like to stay or not. It would seem pretty seemingly ideal for me to teach in Thailand to evade the notorious Canadian winter months while making some money and immerse myself in a different culture, and of course along with some of its inherent geographic attractions such as beaches and what not.

If anybody can help me out that would be really great as I continue to do more research. Thanks a lot everyone and I'm really excited these days. =)
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Kiels



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Wayne,

Look at MediaKids. They're a company operating from Bangkok which place teachers in more rural areas across Thailand in regions such as Issan or towns like Lopburi. Your 3 year degree should be fine. They have positions beginning at the end of May and end of Sept I think. The salary is fine considering the lower cost of living in more rural areas. The schools they place you in are government schools. I didn't particularly like my school but many teachers were happy with theirs. Often large class sizes of 40 +students in each class. You can choose to teach secondary or primary. Some schools are more resourced than others. No fee to join them. 5 month contracts.
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tttompatz



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:27 am    Post subject: Re: Is a 3-Year Bachelor Degree a Disadvantage? + Thai Quest Reply with quote

wayne1523 wrote:
Hi everyone. My name's Wayne (22 years old) and I'm totally new here and this is my first post ever. I'm set to graduate this semester as a History Major from the University of Waterloo in Canada and I'm really excited of the prospect of teaching abroad, especially when I figured that I wanted to do it just a month ago.

I was wondering if, in general, it would be a disadvantage to try to teach abroad with only a 3-Year Degree (as I will be graduating with that) vs. the usual 4-year Degree. Would this be an impediment to finding part-time English teaching jobs around the world or would it only make it more difficult if I wished to be a full-time "Licensed Teacher" with a teaching certificate that actually teaches in specialized subjects? (ie: Math, English, History, Social Studies, etc.)

Also, is anybody here aware of a reliable and legitimate Thai program/school/website that is looking for English teachers that require only a Bachelor's Degree and offering a 5-6 month contract starting this coming Fall (August/September) which also does not require any registration fee (joint for TEFL certificate, etc.)? Thus far in my vigorous research, I have only found either websites offering 5-6 month contracts in Thailand that require a registration fee costing beyond a grand or two, or websites/programs that do not require a fee to be paid but obligates you to 10-12 month contracts.

As a freshly graduated student, my intention for now is to only travel around and see places like Thailand for about a half a year before considering any further whether I would like to stay or not. It would seem pretty seemingly ideal for me to teach in Thailand to evade the notorious Canadian winter months while making some money and immerse myself in a different culture, and of course along with some of its inherent geographic attractions such as beaches and what not.

If anybody can help me out that would be really great as I continue to do more research. Thanks a lot everyone and I'm really excited these days. =)


The length of your degree doesn't matter... Bachelor is bachelor.

Want short term work?

Go to the Thai consulate and get yourself a 60 day tourist visa.
(currently free)

Get a 2nd copy of your degree from Waterloo (yes they do make duplicates).

Bring your 2nd copy, a couple of sealed transcripts and a police check.

Hit the ground in Bangkok (or other place of interest in Thailand).
Get a cheap cell phone, find a cheap rental place.
Find a job. Do a visa run to get your "B" visa (schools expense).
Get your work permit and go to work.
Maybe upgrade your rental and get to something close to work.
Stay away from Soi Cowboy and you will be just fine.
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wayne1523



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the help, people. I was just thinking that it might be a disadvantage since there are those schools which explicitly note that a 4-year degree is required. Even then, alot of them ask for the transcripts so I was wondering if they would take the 3-year thing into consideration when putting you side by side to your competition.
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MaiPenRai



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The length of your degree doesn't matter... Bachelor is bachelor.



As long as your degree says bachelor on it, it should be fine. There is some difference with say a 3 year Associates degree. If you have an associates degree, you May have some problems, but I know 3 or 4 people in the past 1-2 years who had no problems getting all the legla paperwork for Thailand with as Associate degree.

Keep in mind that each province (region) will interperet paperwork differently as will each individual officer.

Most agencies offer 1 semester contracts at government schools. These usually run May-Sept and Oct/Novemeber-March. Check out MediaKids, AYC and others. There is some info on this forum about both these companies as well as a few others. Be sure to check it all out and be informed before accepting anything. Do your homework. Coming in September would be a pretty good time to look for work, but you may not start for a month or so, so come prepared.

NEVER PAY FOR A JOB.


Find a job. Do a visa run to get your "B" visa (schools expense).
Get your work permit and go to work.


Sounds pretty easy. lol. Jobs are a lot more competitive these days. Don't expect it to be a breeze. if you are just gonna hits the streets in Bangkok.

Most entry level jobs (it seems as though your expereince and qualifications will get you an entry level job) will not cover Visa expenses. Most WILL and SHOULD cover your work permit fees.

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if I wished to be a full-time "Licensed Teacher" with a teaching certificate that actually teaches in specialized subjects? (ie: Math, English, History, Social Studies, etc.)


Becoming licensed would require at least 1 more year of study and probably more in Ontario. This would raise your status quite a bit obvioulsy. If you get 2 years+ exp in your home country as well, you will be able to start looking at the top end jobs.

Basically, if you are just looking for a gap year (6 month) experience, you should probably look to use an agency. It will save you the time and hassle while freeing you up to enjoy the experience. Be sure to bring a couple thousand dollars to make sure you dont get stuck AND that you enjoy yourself. ENtry level jobs in Thailand will pay enough to live a decent lifestyle, but depending on your needs, you probably wont save much of anything. See many other posts on this forum about this.

Best of luck.
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wayne1523



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaiRenPai, thanks for your extensive reply. (lol, it rhymes)

Well, instead of just starting off and getting a job now freshly new to teaching, I am now considering signing up to a program like i-to-i where I can gain my TEFL certificate in Thailand, pay a fee/tuition, go through the 1 -month training, and look to get a placement as they assure. I have seen quite a considerable number of ads on Dave's Cafe that requires a TEFL certificate, so I might as well get it while I'm in Thailand AND get a placement as well. Maybe this is a better idea? And i-to-i is legitimate, correct? Thanks.
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itoi



Joined: 19 Feb 2010
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Wayne,

We are indeed legitimate - in fact we train more people to be TEFL teachers each year than any other course provider.

You might want to log-on to our TEFL community Chalkboard to meet others who have got TEFL certified through i-to-i: http://www.tefl-chalkboard.com/

There's also quite a few people on there who are booked onto the Thailand Internship (I think that's what you're interested in right?) who you can chat to before going: http://www.tefl-chalkboard.com/groups/85-Teach-in-Thailand-Internship

Good luck and if you have any questions feel free to get in touch!
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MaiPenRai



Joined: 17 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When looking at TEFL schools, here are a few tips:

1. Male sure you get 120 hours of onsite tutorials (industry standard)
2. Make sure you get at least 6 hours of observed teaching practice (industry standard)
3. Ask to speak to previous grads
4. Ask to speak to the trainers. Ask detailed questions about their teaching experience and knowledge. Remember these are the people who will be TEACHING you.
5. Remember that you are a customer and they are supplying a service.
6. Dont be fooled by courses offering beach side locations. If you are going to STUDY for a course, you should focus on the study aspect. Plenty of time for beach holidays after.
7. Courses that offer guaranteed placements often work with recruiting agencies and basically sell you to the agency. Therefore these teachers often get placed in less than desirable locations and schools.

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We (i-to-i) are indeed legitimate - in fact we train more people to be TEFL teachers each year than any other course provider.


Quantity is hardly a factor IMO. Would love to see some stats to back up that claim as well. If I am paying for a service like a TEFL course, I want QUALITY and VALUE.

i-to-i is so-so (even though quite a large chain) in the TEFL world. As someone who recruits for schools in Thailand, when I see an i-to-i grad, I hardly jump and down, but it is better that say something like"Joe's TEFL" or "Beach TEFL".

Remember, it's all about the TRAINERS (quality) and the VALUE that future employers will give to the course.

The CELTA is the most recognized TEFL course worldwide and my recommendation for anyone even remotely interested in getting into ESL/EFL teaching.

Best of luck
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