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Does anybody hire Music teachers?

 
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maplecm



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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 3:26 pm    Post subject: Does anybody hire Music teachers? Reply with quote

Hello.

My husband and I are both experienced music teachers. I have taught K-6 general music and MS/HS choir. I am an accomplished pianist and have a MA in Education. My huband teaches band 5-12 and has won many local and state competitions. He also has a MA in Education.

We have twn 4 year old boys and we are really wanting to teach abroad.

We have applied and have our resumes with CS&A, and I am thinking about putting our resumes on TIEonline. Does anybody think that this would work?

It just seems that most schools want teachers for english, and although we don't have the TOESL or CERTA we could teach that. However, we would like to stay in our field. We would also like to teach somewhere where our children would be welcome as students.

Does anybody have any suggestions or where we could look or if anybody knows if music positions are available?

Thanks
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What languages do you speak fluently? Classes are normally taught in the local language, obviously....this could narrow your choices a bit. Further, what skills can you offer that natives couldn't? Why would a school in, say, Poland choose you over a Polish candidate with similar qualifications?
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santi84



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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 5:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Does anybody hire Music teachers? Reply with quote

maplecm wrote:
TOESL or CERTA


Just to clarify so you get proper results if you use the search engine, the terms are:
TESOL (Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages)
TESL (Teaching English as a Second Language)
CELTA (Certificate in English Language Teaching to Adults)

Check the search engine and look up "international school" positions. An international school is different than a school that is located internationally. The bottom line is that it requires teaching certification from your home country and allows you to teach your qualified subject. It is one of the better positions abroad.

You are both well-qualified (you didn't say how many years teaching experience you have, but I assume it is more than two if you both have an MA in education, etc). I'm not sure what the demand for music teacher is on the international school scene, but I suspect there's a position abroad for you both!

Do you have a preference for any particular region?
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was actually just going to post again about the possibility of international schools, after having focused a bit too much on the negative in my earlier post. Thanks, santi!

In some, maybe even most regions, such positions are highly sought-after and the job market is still quite competitive, but it's certainly a better possiblity than landing a position in any state-sponsored public school or university.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spiral78 wrote:
I was actually just going to post again about the possibility of international schools, after having focused a bit too much on the negative in my earlier post. Thanks, santi!

In some, maybe even most regions, such positions are highly sought-after and the job market is still quite competitive, but it's certainly a better possiblity than landing a position in any state-sponsored public school or university.


Yes, the international school market is quite tough! I think the OP has a much better shot at teaching music than English, the only thing I would wonder about is whether or not there is a big demand for music teachers in that market. I know provincially qualified music teachers are in demand here in Canada. Another issue is whether or not the school is interested in two music teachers? Embarassed Maybe a large metropolitan area is a good option - but that's just me, I wouldn't be interested in working at the same employer as my husband Twisted Evil I see him enough already Laughing
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spiral78



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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It just seems that most schools want teachers for english, and although we don't have the TOESL or CERTA we could teach that.

Just to clarify this point, the accepted approaches and methods for teaching language are quite different to those for content subjects. Your MA in education is a good point, but some specific training for teaching language would be needed in most situations.

I am one of the people at the uni where I work who reviews CVs. We wouldn't consider someone with a general MA education who didn't also have specific training in teaching languages. My first degree was Education, and I can vouch that the skill set is fairly substantially different.
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maplecm



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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all for speaking with me.

I have looked at the international scene, and would most likely want to teach in those kind of schools. However, my question is....is there a website that I can go to that alot or only international schools look for candidates? Is the TIEonline a good resource?

I have had an interview in Egypt (3 days ago), and an email to Singapore (just filling out the applications!).

Also...how long is the time frame from interview to hiring usually take? The school in Egypt asked me if it was okay to check references, and I said absolutely. We also had an 1 1/2 conversation and interview. Is this a good sign, and what time frame should I look at?

Thanks again!
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maplecm



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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OH...sorry for another message. I have 7 years experience, and my husband has 10 years.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maplecm wrote:
Thank you all for speaking with me.

I have looked at the international scene, and would most likely want to teach in those kind of schools. However, my question is....is there a website that I can go to that alot or only international schools look for candidates? Is the TIEonline a good resource?

I have had an interview in Egypt (3 days ago), and an email to Singapore (just filling out the applications!).

Also...how long is the time frame from interview to hiring usually take? The school in Egypt asked me if it was okay to check references, and I said absolutely. We also had an 1 1/2 conversation and interview. Is this a good sign, and what time frame should I look at?

Thanks again!


I only teach in Canada so I can't offer any further, but I would strongly recommend you ask this question on the general middle east forum (and Egypt forum). There are a lot of experienced teachers that can give you advice about that specifically, but they don't often venture into the newbie section. Egypt is quite the place (I've spent a good deal of time there, but not as a teacher!)
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maplecm



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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much for you time! Have a great day.
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