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Mark Lyon
Joined: 25 Sep 2010 Posts: 7
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:40 am Post subject: Thailand? |
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Hi I am new and was wondering about prospects in Thailand. Mostly the education needed or not needed, ability to save up money, and likely hood of finding work. If anyone knows anything, it would be really helpful. |
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tttompatz

Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 1951 Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:22 am Post subject: Re: Thailand? |
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Mark Lyon wrote: |
Hi I am new and was wondering about prospects in Thailand. Mostly the education needed or not needed, ability to save up money, and likely hood of finding work. If anyone knows anything, it would be really helpful. |
No qualification other than a white face and high school diploma = beach bum (have fun). You MAY find some odd jobs but nothing legal, stable or long term.
TESOL certification of one flavor or another (CELTA is a popular brand here) = virtually no likelihood of legal work but you will be able to find some work (hard to pay the bills but you would be able to extend a vacation for a while).
You will also have problems with a long term stay and multiple border runs to gain further time in the kingdom (at your expense).
Bachelors degree = legal work is available and easy to find. Starting salaries are in the 30-40k baht per month range (sans housing). It will be a tight squeeze in central BKK (rents run from 8k-15k per month) but comfortable out in the provinces (with rent (house with air and mod cons) from 3-6k (often including utilities)).
Bachelors degree + TESOL or Bachelors degree + verifiable classroom experience will put you into the 40-50k baht range (comfortable in BKK and well off in the provinces with the ability to save a bit.)
Masters degree in a related field / post grad certification in an educational field or a B.Ed + home country teacher certification AND 2+ years of verifiable experience puts you into the international or IB schools with a salary that would be comparable to what you would make in your home country and with perks to match. Pretty easy to bank (depending on your spending habits) between $500 and $1000 per month.
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Mark Lyon
Joined: 25 Sep 2010 Posts: 7
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:25 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. That's a lot of really helpful information. Thank you very much. |
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MaiPenRai

Joined: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 390 Location: BKK
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Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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Tom posted some good info. Here my 2 cents.
Please dont come here if you dont have a degree. It is getting WAY harder to get work legally without a degree and you will most likely work for peanuts and get taken advantage of. The stories you may hear saying otherwise are usually teachers who have worked at the same place for many years and thus they can operate on the older rules. However this puts them in the position of being a "captive" to their school. If they change schools, they will have to start the work permit process again and this be subject to the new rules making it near impossible to get a woprk permit without a degree.
Accomm in Bangkok can be found for less than 8000 in many areas. Bangkok is a huge place with schools in all areas, not just "downtown". I know people with decent places for 5000-8000/month. It mostly depends on location.
BA+Tesol+Exp can potentially net you more than 40-50 if you fit the other requirments and get lucky. White (sorry but true in most cases), presentable, good smile, hard worker, no complaining, etc. Should be able to supplement an extra 10K/month fairly easily after making come contacts (6 months) or take a weekend/evening language school gig and start making right away. That being said Tom is right that you can expect on average about 40K to start.
Best of luck. |
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Mark Lyon
Joined: 25 Sep 2010 Posts: 7
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 2:54 am Post subject: |
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Thanks. What Tesol is good? I am guessing the one advertising on this page is a choice pick. And does anyone know about martial arts lessons? Things such as cost and location would be a big help. And how much would a job not in a major city pay? |
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tttompatz

Joined: 06 Mar 2010 Posts: 1951 Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:48 am Post subject: |
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Mark Lyon wrote: |
Thanks. What Tesol is good? I am guessing the one advertising on this page is a choice pick. And does anyone know about martial arts lessons? Things such as cost and location would be a big help. And how much would a job not in a major city pay? |
There is Muay Thai available everywhere. Costs (not counting bruises) are cheap. It is the most popular (but not the only) martial art in Thailand.
What TESOL - there are any number of 30 day courses (120 hour with 6+ hours of observed practicum with real students). The key is 120 hours and real teaching.
Some of the more popular (by employers) TESOL courses are the: CELTA, Trinity TESOL, or SIT TESOL.
Jobs outside BKK (the only MAJOR city) can pay as much as jobs in BKK but your cost of living will be substantially lower. Google is your friend.
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PattyFlipper
Joined: 14 Nov 2007 Posts: 572
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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tttompatz, as usual, gives good, objective advice, however I am going to contest a little the notion that the cost of living in the provinces is substantially cheaper than Bangkok.
Accommodation may be cheaper, and also possibly some restaurant meals (though the selection may also be limited), but most of the other goods and services you may want to/have to purchase, e.g. groceries, booze, cigarettes, toiletries, clothing, medicines, electrical items, computer equipment, books, utilities, phone connection and calls, internet service, satellite TV, transportation (nationally and internationally), 'international standard' medical care (and insurance), taxes, visa and work-permit costs, are fairly uniform throughout the country, with little price fluctuation between Bangkok and the provinces. Indeed, some of the aforementioned items may actually be more expensive outside Bangkok, due to limited selection/availability and not having the luxury of being able to shop around.
I think what it boils down to is that there are fewer outlets and temptations on which to spend your hard-earned, out in Nakhon Nowhere. Costs in Phuket and some of the southern islands can actually be substantially higher than in the capital.
Bear in mind also, that opportunities to supplement your income and/or escape an abusive or exploitative employer will likely be similarly limited in provincial towns and cities. |
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Placebo

Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Posts: 80 Location: Bangkok
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Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:29 am Post subject: |
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tttompatz wrote: |
There is Muay Thai available everywhere. Costs (not counting bruises) are cheap. It is the most popular (but not the only) martial art in Thailand. |
Although Tom is spot on with the rest of the infos, I beg to differ with this one. Most Muay Thai gyms will bill you a staggering 300-400 Baht per training session. You get your money's worth for 3 hours of torture, but it's not cheap (at least not to me).
You can try Bangkok fight club and get a somewhat cheap monthly membership, but the traditional gyms are not that cheap... |
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