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athenssoest



Joined: 24 Dec 2009
Posts: 41
Location: middle of nowhere United States

PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 10:45 pm    Post subject: career teachers Reply with quote

I know that there are tons of people on this forum who have made teaching abroad their career, do you find it hard to save money to retire?
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Justin Trullinger



Joined: 28 Jan 2005
Posts: 3110
Location: Seoul, South Korea and Myanmar for a bit

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Short answer- not really.

But it depends on so many factors. Like any job choice, if you have only minimal training, it's very hard to prepare for retirement.

If you have more job possibilities, you can make choices that suit your retirement plans...

But it depends on loads of factors.

Justin
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tttompatz



Joined: 06 Mar 2010
Posts: 1951
Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:21 am    Post subject: Re: career teachers Reply with quote

athenssoest wrote:
I know that there are tons of people on this forum who have made teaching abroad their career, do you find it hard to save money to retire?


nope...

Took 5 years to save enough to buy 5 hectares of land and build a 120m2 house with no debt or mortgage.

During that time our family also took 2 or 3 vacations abroad (from where we were resident) and maintained a comfortable living,

It took time to get to that level, you won;t do it on newbie wages but it is doable.

Having said that... I also didn't save anything in my first year abroad as a teacher but I certainly enjoyed the high life.

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athenssoest



Joined: 24 Dec 2009
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Location: middle of nowhere United States

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you guys plan on staying in teaching? Where do you teach/have taught? What kind of schools do you teach in?
Thanks!
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GambateBingBangBOOM



Joined: 04 Nov 2003
Posts: 2021
Location: Japan

PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I plan on staying in teaching. As Justin pointed out, without qualifications, it would be difficult.

How people on this board live, varies greatly, though, it's kind of a 'what does it mean to be a foreigner teaching English in any context whatsoever' board, and that's a good thing. It means that if you are thinking about doing this as a career, then blanket questions to people all over the world aren't going to give a very good picture of what your own life may be like. The best thing to do is to choose a country, or at least a general area (like South America, or NorthEast Asia) and investigate in individual boards.

With retirement savings, people may be married, they may have kids, they may be single, they may have retirement plans in their home countries as well as in the country in which they live. They may have chosen to live in one country for their career, or they may move from country to country. They may have decided to retire in their home country. They may have been in a single 'foreign' country so long that that country now feels like their home and they want to retire there. They may have decided to go to a third (less expensive) country to retire. They may HAVE to go to a less expensive country to retire because saving for retirement in an inner circle English speaking nation when you live and work in a developing nation would be impossible. They may already have enough savings for retirement from having worked in another industry beforehand and live paycheque to paycheque when they are teaching EFL because they can- don't need to save anything at all. Etc, etc, etc.
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naturegirl321



Joined: 04 May 2003
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Location: home sweet home

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bought first apartment cash after teaching in China and Peru for 3 years, Then a car, cash. Sold both less than a year later and boguht another apartment and car. And this was in Peru. Budgeting helps, a lot.

Back in ASia, I'm hoping to save HEAPS more.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Posts: 12844
Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2010 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

athenssoest wrote:
Do you guys plan on staying in teaching? Where do you teach/have taught? What kind of schools do you teach in?
Thanks!
Yes, I plan on staying in teaching.

I'm at a university in Japan.

I have taught in a conversation school, in private lessons, PT and FT at a private HS, and now a university FT.
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TeresaLopez



Joined: 18 Apr 2010
Posts: 601
Location: Mexico City

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in Mexico City, where my husband and I own two small apartments, we live in one, rent the other. One is completely paid for, the other will be in another year or so. We are also in the process of buying a house in a small town in Zacatecas, where we will probably live one we retire. I worked long enough in the US to be able to collect SS, if it is still there. We will probably buy another apartment in the same building where we now live when one becomes available. We are also considering doing a Spanish Immersion kind of thing, where someone comes here, stays a month in the apartment, gets private classes from me, and then all the conversation they can handle from extended family that lives in the same building. It's not too far from downtown, but in a totally non-English speaking area.
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nickpellatt



Joined: 08 Dec 2006
Posts: 1522

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I currently work in one of the lower paying towns in China, and so dont earn anything like the salaries that are often discussed on the boards. (Im happy with my location and schedule though, hence taking the job!)

However, even this low paying job would allow me to save in excess of �4500 per year, which would be pretty hard to do in the UK. Granted, that isnt a fortune, but it really is an entry level job, and even with that saving one can still enjoy eating out in a restaurant every night! If I was so inclined, I could aim for higher salaries in subsequent positions in the future and if the money was carefully invested and saved I reckon a nice little nest egg is easy enough to accumulate.

It would be fairly difficult to save that amount back in the UK.
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steki47



Joined: 20 Apr 2008
Posts: 1029
Location: BFE Inaka

PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GambateBingBangBOOM wrote:
They may have decided to retire in their home country. They may have been in a single 'foreign' country so long that that country now feels like their home and they want to retire there. They may have decided to go to a third (less expensive) country to retire.


These are all options that my wife and I discussed when we decided to get married. I've been in Japan for a few years and don't mind staying here long-term. My wife (Japanese) said she would be willing to move back to the US with me after I retire.

Both of us stand to inherit property from our parents. Both of us are paying into the national pension system and are saving privately. And both of us are old to have to think about these things, but still young enough to have time to make choices.

Actually, my wife suggested moving to Malaysia after retirement. Another option.

I'll let you know what we do in 30 years or so! Very Happy
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Sadebugo



Joined: 10 May 2003
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2010 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm fortunate in that I work for the US government as a civil servant/ESL Instructor. Therefore, retirement is covered. Plus, I can still travel!

Sadebugo
http://travldawrld.blogspot.com/
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timothypfox



Joined: 20 Feb 2008
Posts: 492

PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2010 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OR .....

I started in Japan teaching at a large chain school, and went to Montreal (Canada is where I'm originally from) and scraped by at a language school.

I then tried to quit teaching in New York City, but failed and taught and scraped by at a conversation school there.

Now I work as public school teacher which has a pension, but the work is... well ... you know... Sad
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