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xjgirl · Joined: 02 Feb 2010 Posts: 242

Has anyone else in the last month or so of job-searching encountered this problem
It's a new one for me and stinks of bureaucracy gone wild...

I got offered a job in a college in changsha. It's your typical China college job.

I work in a different province for a college and I'm on a residence permit.
All my paperwork is in order,
except for the fact that because I didn't enter China on a z-visa(that was 6 years ago!) they won't go ahead with the normal procedure of issuing
me a foreign experts certificate(the gov. body in question is the one that
issues the foreign experts certificate, at least I'm pretty sure it is).

i thought getting a residence permit for a new school when you're already on a residence permit is pretty much STANDARD PROCEDURE

why do i have to go on a z-visa run just to get a new job?
It's crazy

the new school is asking me to get a medical exam in my current location, then scan it and send it,then they'll get letter of invitation and when i finish my current job, it's off to hong kong, something i thought i'd
NEVER have to do,working these public school jobs

it's either bureaucracy gone wild, or something smells fishy

perhaps as it's hunan(a little old-school down there i hear) it's just
mindless bureaucracy.

anyone out there with similar experiences>>

El Chupacabra · Joined: 22 Jul 2009 Posts: 378 Location: Kwangchow

Jayray · Joined: 28 Feb 2009 Posts: 373 Location: Back East

johntpartee · Joined: 02 Mar 2010 Posts: 3258

I read and re-read your post because I thought I was missing something. It didn't make sense. How have you managed to stay here all this time?

wangdaning · Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 3154

The problem may be that when the school contacted the officials they said the wrong thing, i.e. that you entered without a Z visa. The officials got weird and insisted you get a Z visa, even though you have a valid RP and FEC I would assume.

I have seen this happen. People at the school say the wrong things to officials out of stupidity and screw over the teacher. Now you probably have no chance to work in Changsha without getting a Z or having a school with guanxi and an intelligent FAO.

The Ever-changing Cleric · Joined: 19 Feb 2009 Posts: 1523

xjgirl · Joined: 02 Feb 2010 Posts: 242

wangdanang is talking sense.that's probably what happened.
or things have just gotten overly-strict

askiptochina · Joined: 26 Feb 2010 Posts: 488 Location: Beijing

What if you have a student visa? How does this get transferred to a work visa?

Teatime of Soul · Joined: 12 Apr 2007 Posts: 905

Last year, the local PSB requested photocopies of all our school's FTs visa entry stamps from immigration when they entered China and the actual passports to confirm.

No idea why, or what they would have done if they had found an exception.

No drama since everybody had entered upon a Z visa and had proper documentation.

Jayray · Joined: 28 Feb 2009 Posts: 373 Location: Back East

The question remains: how did you manage to stay for so long?

And what are folks on other forums telling you? Certainly, you must have been referred here to pose your question.

gene · Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 187

During the games, the PBS did question me as to why I had no entrance visa "Z".... I had entered on an L visa and converted which may be what happen here, as soon as I showed them the L visa and the entry date as well as the converted Z visa (from an old passport no longer used) they approved the current RP extension. As this is a pretty strict province, they may have interpreted the regulation to your exclusion....

xjgirl · Joined: 02 Feb 2010 Posts: 242

Jayray, your question is undeserving of an answer and illogical

As for other forums, why would I need to be referred to the famous Dave's ESLcafe??

Optional_Toaster · Joined: 22 Mar 2009 Posts: 74 Location: Dong bei

I entered on a tourist visa more than two years ago because a teacher skipped out on them at the last minute. I received my residence permit as well and have never had any problems getting it renewed.

Now, after working with the same place (in two different locations), I'm signed up to work for a new university. Depending on their situation, they could require me to get a Z-visa first....it's all up to them and their relationship with the government.

While I'd imagine there won't be any hassles, who knows what'll happen!

In the strictest sense, there should be a Z-visa in your passport (from what I've heard)....so it doesn't seem entirely crazy that some places would ask for or require one.