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Canuk girl
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 Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:17 pm Post subject: Can you recommend a textbook for my student? |
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I have a couple of private students who want lessons on TOEIC and business lessons.. I went to Book First in Shibuya, and was baffled. Can anyone recommend a TOEIC and/or business text book(s) with good bang for my buck, so that I can teach some adequate lessons?
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PAULH
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Hi
You dont say what level your students are but I have been teaching TOEIC at my university for the last 4 years using TOEIC Strategies by McMillan and Longman Guide to the TOEIC
FYI Last year i collaborated and helped edit a TOEIC book that has just been published in the US and just released in Japan last month, and is geared for people taking the TOEIC Bridge i.e. a shorter and simpler version of the TOEIC test and geared for lower level learners with scores under 400 on the TOEIC. havent used it but Ill keep you posted.
it comes with tapes or CD. |
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Canuk girl
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Hey Paul... thanks for your reply... he's a really high level.. almost native speaker.. but had like a 600 something on his test. |
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Gordon
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Try the Longman advanced text. It is better than the Oxford book. I like the layout better too. |
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guest of Japan
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| If he is like a native speaker his TOEIC should be around 900. If he speaks very fluently but still has a much lower score then he problably has some serious grammar or reading issues that need to be addresses. |
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Canuk girl
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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| guest: yeah I figured that he must have some serious grammar issues, which is weird, his English conversation skills are golden, he spent a bit of time in Canada.. looking at the info he gave me, his score was 680 - better than 600, of course, but still low! I guess speaking and listening/reading/writing are a problem. |
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PAULH
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| Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Canuk girl wrote: |
| guest: yeah I figured that he must have some serious grammar issues, which is weird, his English conversation skills are golden, he spent a bit of time in Canada.. looking at the info he gave me, his score was 680 - better than 600, of course, but still low! I guess speaking and listening/reading/writing are a problem. |
I wouldnt be able to give you a definitive answer unless I saw one of his test papers- if he has spent time in Canada he probably has pretty good listening skills, but one doesnt really know what his vocabulary is like as he only uses what he knows, and the TOEIC doesnt really test conversation skils- it tests listening, grammar and reading comprehension. I think the biggest problem Japanese have in general is a slow reading speed, lack of sufficient vocabulary (he could be guessing at many of the questions) and perhaps a lack of test taking ability. Doing TOEIC is not just about measuring English but mastering test taking strategies e.g multi-choice, searching for gist, making predictions and educated guesses, elimination etc I spent a lot of time teaching students actually how to approach each section. I also do some work on pronunciation and intonation as many students have trouble with reductions and abbreviations in English speaking.
I might also add that to get in to Temple University in Tokyo you need a TOEFL score of 600. 600 on TOEIC is about 400 on TOEFL, no where near native speaker fluency. He may be a very fluent (not make mistakes, goo pronunciation) but there are other hidden issues. |
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