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[clayrview]

Was recently hired and given very clear instructions on what to do, so thought I would pass these on for those traveling from their home country to Vietnam looking for work- make sure you bring these.

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Work Permit

According to Vietnamese labor laws, foreigners working in Vietnam must obtain a work permit. To help teachers obtain this permit, the school must supply to the VN Department of

Labor:
1. An application for work permit form (filled in while in Vietnam)

2. A Curriculum Vitae (filled in while in Vietnam)

3. A police report. You will need to obtain a police record from your local police in your home country. Needs to be Notarized first by Notary Public, Notarized a second time by the Secretyar of State/Ministry of Foreign Affairs of your home country and then to the Vietnamese Embassy/Consulate in your home country for them to notarize and translate.

Important- You only need to obtain a police report in your home country. This police report can be only a name check (without fingerprints) as long as it goes through the proper notarization process.

Important- There is no need to get one in a foreign country that you have lived, even right before you move to Vietnam.

4. Degree/Qualifications (BOTH CELTA and Uni Degree) SAME PROCESS

Notary Public and then Secretary of State/Ministry of Foreign Affairs and
finally to the Vietnamese Embassy/Consulate and have them notarize and
translate into Vietnamese.

******The notarizations from the Secretary of
State/Ministry of Foreign Affairs are required to show that the qualifications
are authentic, and the Vietnamese Embassy/Consulate will not do anything
unless these notarizations are first notarized by your government
representative.***********

5. Originals of marriage licenses and/or name change certificates - required where the name on the qualifications do not match the name on the recent police report

(duly notarized according to the regulations pertaining to working permits)

*******VERY IMPORTANT*****

Every single word of your full name on your diploma and police report is
required to match up.

So if it says Charles S. Smith on your degree, it needs to say Charles S. Smith on your police check.

Got it??????????
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SO as I understand it:

Degree (highest) and Criminal Check (from local police station)

1. Notarized by Notary Public (can be found in yellow pages) Takes only 1 day.

2. Both Notarized again by the office of foreign affairs OR the Secretary of state. (In Canada is same day if you go in person, in the USA I have no idea)

3. Both Documents then taken to the Vietnamese consulate to be BOTH notarized a third time, and then translated into Vietnamese (takes 1-2 weeks in Canada, no idea for Americans).

4. Take this documents with you to Vietnam.

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A lot of bloody hoops to jump through, hope this helps some!

Cheers

[Mattingly]

[motown]

Regarding notarized documents...
I presume that notarized copies are okay. You don't need to have the "notarized stamp" on the original. That wouldn't make any sense.
Nobody wants their original degree stamped by a lawyer (notary) unless of course they have ordered several copies of their original.

[Bold As Love]

[Kornan DeKobb]

[clayrview]

Whether the terminology is different from country to country, at least the Canadian Ministry of Foriegn affairs will 'notarize' the documents, after they have been proven to be true copies/orginals by a Notary public.

Either way, these offices in Canada and the US deal with authenicating documents on a daily basis, and regardless of what it is called, will know what the proper procedure is.

As far as it being an original or certified copy, my employer assured me that either is fine.

"For the VN Dept of Labor, what they require is the original stamp/seal and signature of the Dept of Foreign Affairs and International Trade as well as of the VN Embassy/Consulate."

It doesnt matter to the VN Dept of Labor if the document is copy or original as long as they see the original stamp/seal and signatures of those authorities on the documents, but be sure to check with the Embassy/Foriegn affair office in your country.

[Kornan DeKobb]

The Canuck angle explains it. Canada is not part of the Hague Convention which authorizes the "apostille" which most countries use to recognize others' documents, so they have some alternate process. But for most of the rest of us, that is what it is.

[BrentBlack]

So what do you do if you are planning to take your CELTA in Vietnam, and then look for a job once you are done, as I am planning to do in October through ILA. I imagine, my degrees and criminal background check need to be done before I leave, but will I have to send back my CELTA to be notarized? Also, how may days before you enter the country does your police report need to be done. I am planning on spending sometime in Europe before arriving in Vietnam. Also, how does this play out for visa issues? Thanks.

Brent Black

[Wide Awake]

[clayrview]

[JZer]

Is a CELTA required to get a work permit in Vietnam? Or would a degree be enough?

[Boxcar Johnny]

[CThomas]

[shanewarne]

[Wide Awake]

Why do I have a work permit then? I don't have a CELTA or a TEFL.

If you have a BA in Education you do not need a CELTA. It's one of the only things that makes sense in the work permit process.