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mimi_intheworld



Joined: 23 May 2010
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:43 am    Post subject: Getting Started in KSA... Reply with quote

...and breaking the news to your Midwestern American family.


I've been reading this forum page (along with several others) for a bit now, and really what I am looking for now is the encouragement to actually take the plunge and get work teaching in Saudi Arabia. (Or possibly Oman, UAE, etc - I have only the vaguest concepts of the Gulf States, but the lack of knowledge is actually part of the draw.)

Quickly, my qualifications:
- BA English
- MA Intercultural Studies
- Teaching cert from the State of Texas for English & Reading
- 3 years teaching experience in an alternative school, in a mixed ability multilingual (mainly Spanish) classroom
- 1 year teaching experience in a UK comprehensive school, 6 months teaching/tutoring/mentoring at a non-profit youth organisation in London
- other misc. tutoring & EFL experience about 10 years ago

To make this post relevant to applicants other than me, I also wonder what it's *really* like to teach in KSA. I have read pleasant things about salary, mixed things about schools, and still wonder if I'd get work here, what sort I should apply for, etc. Also, I'm a mid-30s pasty-white single woman. Culturally, what should I expect? (Perhaps that's an ignorant question, but I currently live in a ridiculously uninformed/uninterested town in the South, and I'm having a devil of a time finding ANYTHING about Saudi Arabia other than vague political references in the news.)

Are there cities or areas of KSA I should avoid? Are there places or companies or agencies that come highly recommended? What is student behavior REALLY like? And all the other questions everyone else has asked.

Oh, and what do you say to people who question the sanity of starting to teach in a nation like Saudi Arabia? After all, my lack of knowledge is nothing when compared to people like my sensible Midwestern family and my conservative bible belt Texan friends.

Since the Saudi Arabia page doesn't have a New Teachers section, and you all seem to have been there for decades, I guess I would just like to glean loads of useful information from your experiences. Thanks!
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 4:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suggest taking a look at Teachaway. They are a recruiter hiring for the re-vamping of the K-12 system in the UAE.

You should be able to google up their ads - or a search on the "jobs" page here. You can also do a search on the UAE board.

As an American female who originally went to the Middle East at your age... in the 80s, I suggest that Saudi is not really the place to start. Take a look at the rest of the Gulf. JMHO...

VS
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aim for a job at one of the International Schools. If you are intent on KSA then Dhahran Academy, Jeddah Prep, The American school in Jeddah or similar.

Same sort of places in UAE or elsewhere in the Guilf.
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mimi_intheworld



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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips so far. I'll have a look at the recruiters/schools you mentioned. VS, I'm curious, why do you suggest not starting in Saudi?

Also, I should perhaps add that friends of mine moved there last month with Saudi Aramco. I'm beginning to hear about camp life. That wouldn't be my brief, would it? As a teacher?
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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aramco have teachers in the schools there. Nice number if you can get it. The best in Saudi.

These are schools mainly for the children of foreigners working for Aramco.

Quite different from the Training Centers run by Aramco for trainees.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mimi_intheworld wrote:
Thanks for the tips so far. I'll have a look at the recruiters/schools you mentioned. VS, I'm curious, why do you suggest not starting in Saudi?

Also, I should perhaps add that friends of mine moved there last month with Saudi Aramco. I'm beginning to hear about camp life. That wouldn't be my brief, would it? As a teacher?

Aramco teachers are invariably male and employed by recruiters and not in the same situation as direct hires of Saudi Aramco. As Scot says, there is an International School on their compound, but getting a job there is pretty much impossible... teachers die at their desk before they give up the pay and benefits. Laughing We've never had one show up here, nor seen an ad for a job there. You have to know someone already there to get in...

As to why I don't recommend Saudi for women, it is because of the restrictions. There are women that don't mind them (like our poster Cleopatra), but personally I have no interest in wearing a headscarf and adding another layer of clothing when it is 120 degrees. I drove in every country I lived in except Egypt (ever present supercheap taxis) and I prefer the independence of controlling my ability to go somewhere when I want to. Yes, there are taxis, but standing outside attempting to flag one down when it is 120 doesn't appeal to me either. I like being to take a walk in my own neighborhood and only dealing with minimal staring and harassment. Living in any new culture requires adjustment, but IMHO Saudi adds another level.

Not to mention that if you like a nice glass of wine with dinner, it is available in places like Qatar, UAE, Bahrain, and Oman. In Saudi, you are stuck with home brews from someone's bathtub. Cool

BTW... international schools hold job fairs around the US every year. One of the organizations is ISS. There may be others, but I always taught university level.

VS
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...there's also Search Associates, University of Northern Iowa, Ohio State University...and, I believe Queens University (?) somewhere in Canada (probably Ontario)... It's been a while since I cared to look, tho... And, always, TESOL...

NCTBA
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trapezius



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Location: Land of Culture of Death & Destruction

PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listen to the sages who have responded. If you really are intent on coming here, I can answer this bit, and I am sure the sages will agree:

Quote:
Are there cities or areas of KSA I should avoid?


Yes, avoid all areas and cities except the following three:

Jeddah
Riyadh
Khobar/Dhahran

Anywhere else where jobs are advertised (Ha'il, Tabuk, Najran, Abha, Jizan, Yanbu, Baha, Taif, Qassim, Buraydah, Ahsa) is the boondocks, esp for a young female from the USA! (for most Westerners, actually, but being female, you will face special problems in the small cities)


Since you have a teaching certificate, you will be better off teaching in K-12 schools than in universities, and it will be a heck of a lot more rewarding, and the environment far more professional. There are several British/American-run British/American-curriculum schools in the 3 cities I mentioned above. Seek them out and apply there. DO NOT go for Asian/Arab-run Western-curriculum schools.

Good luck.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear trap,

How can I break this to you gently? You are one of the foremost such sages.

Regards,
Oregano John
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oregano,mmmmmmmm,oregano...

NCTBA
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Sheikh N Bake



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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear trap,

How can I break this to you gently? You are one of the foremost such sages.

Regards,
Oregano John


They're da sages but I'm da boss.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Sheik,

"Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown."

Henry IV, Part II
Act III, Scene I, Line 33

Regards,
John
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