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eclectic
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 Posted: Thu May 27, 2010 3:36 pm Post subject: Hassle-free (or nearly) Asian country? |
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Im looking for a country that doesn't require excessive health checks, blood tests, apostilles of notarized original criminal background checks, etc. I went thru all that to get here (Korea) and don't want to go thru it all over again.
Which country/-ies in Asia would be the best bet given my desire now for a more laid-back, easy-going environment? Are there any General Asia connoisseurs out there who can shine some light on these particular parameters? |
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KayuJati
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| Posted: Fri May 28, 2010 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Malaysia usually only requires a chest X-ray to ascertain the presence of tuberculosis. A general physical is also required every two years for the teaching license. |
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tttompatz
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Location: Talibon, Bohol, Philippines
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| Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 10:20 am Post subject: Re: Hassle-free (or nearly) Asian country? |
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| eclectic wrote: |
Im looking for a country that doesn't require excessive health checks, blood tests, apostilles of notarized original criminal background checks, etc. I went thru all that to get here (Korea) and don't want to go thru it all over again.
Which country/-ies in Asia would be the best bet given my desire now for a more laid-back, easy-going environment? Are there any General Asia connoisseurs out there who can shine some light on these particular parameters? |
Just trying to skip the worst of the paperwork, then Thailand, Japan, Malaysia, Indonesia,.
Wanting to make money with entry level qualifications (BA - native speaker), Korea, Japan, Taiwan, coastal China.
Have more than entry level qualifications you can do well just about anywhere with a little patience and perserverance.
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eclectic
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| Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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I enormously appreciate your responses here, thank you all very much.
I have no teaching certification. I have a Masters in INternational Studies which I know is unrelated. And a Bachelors in English with 2 years teaching here in Korea. And by God I am now 46 years old. And I wish I was 20.
Is a CELTA needed at this point to teach in Malaysia? Coastal CHina?
Anyway, I dont want to spend 200 bucks on a cheap online TEFL from i-to-i, (a recruiter in Turkey told me "dont worry, an online TEFL will suffice"! )I'd rather do the CELTA or TESOL in SAigon or something but if I dont need one for Malaysia or INdonesia or even coastal CHina, I won't spend the nearly 2 thousand dollars.
I'd like to teach high school level and up, as Im sick unto vomiting of pre-K, K, and elementary nonsense here; what I learned here is that this kind of classroom situation is quite amusingly akin to bouncing in a bar, which I do NOT enjoy in the least bit.
Universities I may wrongly be assuming might provide a more serious classroom environment? How are the unis in Malaysia/INdonesia? |
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KayuJati
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| Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| eclectic wrote: |
I enormously appreciate your responses here, thank you all very much.
I have no teaching certification. I have a Masters in INternational Studies which I know is unrelated. And a Bachelors in English with 2 years teaching here in Korea. And by God I am now 46 years old. And I wish I was 20.
Is a CELTA needed at this point to teach in Malaysia? Coastal CHina?
I'd like to teach high school level and up, as Im sick unto vomiting of pre-K, K, and elementary nonsense here; what I learned here is that this kind of classroom situation is quite amusingly akin to bouncing in a bar, which I do NOT enjoy in the least bit.
Universities I may wrongly be assuming might provide a more serious classroom environment? How are the unis in Malaysia/INdonesia? |
In Malaysia, CELTA is not required. Your BA in English might be enough considering that you also have a Masters. You should come to Kuala Lumpur for 3 weeks and do a job search. There are private colleges that would hire you with those credentials. |
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eclectic
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| Thx Kayujati, that is very hopeful news for me. My wife and I are really wanting to give it a try in Malaysia, and staying in KL 3 weeks seems doable. What type of long-term hotels/etc. would you recommend to minimize costs in what I have read can be a somewhat expensive place to stay? |
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eclectic
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| Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 5:31 am Post subject: |
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p.s....... when you said "
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| In Malaysia, CELTA is not required. Your BA in English might be enough " |
, and yet a CELTA isnt necessary, what else do you feel I'm lacking(i.e. "might" be enough) ? Is it the mere 2 years teaching experience, or also the lack of a certification? |
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KayuJati
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| Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:08 am Post subject: |
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| eclectic wrote: |
| Thx Kayujati, that is very hopeful news for me. My wife and I are really wanting to give it a try in Malaysia, and staying in KL 3 weeks seems doable. What type of long-term hotels/etc. would you recommend to minimize costs in what I have read can be a somewhat expensive place to stay? |
The Chow Kit area of KL has the cheapest hotels, and is close to several schools. Other schools are scattered out in Subang Jaya, Petaling Jaya, and other suburbs of KL. Still, public transport can reach most of them and the transport hubs have a base in Chow Kit. |
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KayuJati
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| Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| eclectic wrote: |
p.s....... when you said "
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| In Malaysia, CELTA is not required. Your BA in English might be enough " |
, and yet a CELTA isnt necessary, what else do you feel I'm lacking(i.e. "might" be enough) ? Is it the mere 2 years teaching experience, or also the lack of a certification? |
Colleges are more interested in your academic qualifications. Thus, a BA in English means you can teach English. The masters will get you a higher salary even if it was not related to English. 'Might' is a fudge word used by people like me who give advice, but cannot guarantee the results. |
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eclectic
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| 'Might' is a fudge word used by people like me who give advice, but cannot guarantee the results. |
I won't accept this. THis is an outrage. YOu cannot "guarantee results"? THis is an outrage. I need a guarantee. YOu must gurantee this. 
RIGHT NOW! 
Hey man, this is great info. I hope the Masters gets me a bit more as well. Thanks again. Will try that Chow Kit area as you say. Good to hear the pub transp is feasible to the other areas in suburban KL. THis is sounding great.
I know you have guaranteed this all too! 
(havent eaten for 16 hours, feelin a bit giddy and herky jerky now) |
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KayuJati
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| Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| eclectic wrote: |
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| 'Might' is a fudge word used by people like me who give advice, but cannot guarantee the results. |
I won't accept this. THis is an outrage. YOu cannot "guarantee results"? THis is an outrage. I need a guarantee. YOu must gurantee this.
RIGHT NOW!
Hey man, this is great info. I hope the Masters gets me a bit more as well. Thanks again. Will try that Chow Kit area as you say. Good to hear the pub transp is feasible to the other areas in suburban KL. THis is sounding great.
I know you have guaranteed this all too!
(havent eaten for 16 hours, feelin a bit giddy and herky jerky now) |
No problems. When you arrive in KL, take the KL Ekspres train to KL Sentral station (RM35, 30 minutes). From there, take the Monorail to the Chow Kit station. Ask someone where the KL International Hotel is. (It is only a 5 minute walk from station.) As you walk towards the Hotel, notice that several small hotels are located along the street leading to the KL Int'l. Check out the prices on these hotels, which are cheaper than KL Int'l. A KLI room goes for > RM100. Some of the cheaper ones are from RM50 upwards. If you get a cheap one, ignore the moaning in the room next door! It is simulated.
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eclectic
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This is fantastic info. YOu know, Malaysia Air has got the best safety record in Asia I think? From Seoul to KL on Expedia I see $361 one way.
Im really looking fwd 2 getting the &%^$ out of here, and thx 2 you I'm getting real life useful nitty gritty info and I appreciate that whole heartedly (should that be hyphenated? too lazy to check just now).
WIll check out the RM50 and up ones after spending a few real nice comfy nights God wiling in the KLI. RM100 is about $30 US, which is great.
Nice how they simulate that moaning! Hey listen man, I thank you again. Truly. Hope all is well there. |
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El Chupacabra
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Location: Kwangchow
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| Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| eclectic wrote: |
| I have no teaching certification. I have a Masters in INternational Studies which I know is unrelated. And a Bachelors in English with 2 years teaching here in Korea. And by God I am now 46 years old. And I wish I was 20. |
I'm also 46, with a masters, although mine's in TESL. Living in Eastasia makes me feel young again. My advice to you is to parlay your international studies expertise in a tertiary institution. Look for schools that have international joint programs, or are preparing students for study or business abroad. You may be able to dispense with the certification nonsense if you become a subject matter expert.
If you want laid-back, less paper-chase, then China is okay. Don't expect to paid a fortune right away, but with the free housing you should be able to save money for later. Good luck, and enjoy your age! |
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KayuJati
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| Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| El Chupacabra wrote: |
| I'm also 46, with a masters, although mine's in TESL. Living in Eastasia makes me feel young again. |
El Chupacabra, although we have been discussing eclectic's interest in SE Asia, you might think about Malaysia also. With your master's in TESL, you could probably get a higher salary than what you make in China. And, having lived and worked in both places, I can say that IMHO Malaysia is much nicer.
(eclectic: Like that weasel phrase "could probably"? Can't make guarantees.)
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eclectic
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Ive never been to either but I can guess China is more robotic and less individualistic than Malaysia.
How is Malaysia on the do-your-own-thing individualism front? SOuth Korea got a measly rating of 18 out of 100 in that category on a very int'lly recognized country survey. USA got 91. I saw Malaysia scored rather low on the Individualism index.
Do you sense that there Kayujati? |
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