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hansel



Joined: 04 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:25 pm    Post subject: Going To Get Job Reply with quote

I want to open a discussion about the following topic. I am interested in teaching english in Japann and am interested in flying to Tokyo to look for a position. Is this something that is done, that can be done. One reason I want to do this is because I dont want to have to travel to Toronto Canada for an interview and I dont want to wait months for a visa. Any thoughts on this.
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azarashi sushi



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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Location: Shinjuku

PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I am interested in teaching english in Japann and am interested in flying to Tokyo to look for a position. Is this something that is done, that can be done


Of course it can be done... And is probably the best way. Many employers want a face to face interview. However, it's also an expensive way and unless you have someone supporting you over here, you'll need to bring LOTS of money with you.

Bear in mind also that competition for jobs in Tokyo is a bit stiffer than in rural areas. If you are restricting yourself to only to Tokyo, depending on your luck, it could take a long time to find a job.


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I dont want to wait months for a visa



A working visa will take the same length of time to process regardless of whether you wait for it in Japan or in your home country.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hansel,

Yes, it can be done. If you are Canadian, you won't have to wait 2 months for a work visa if you get a working holiday visa. Of course, the WHV doesn't last more than a year. Otherwise, if you come (with WHV or tourist visa in hand), and want to switch over to a work visa, you will likely have to wait those 2 months anyway. Some employers allow you to work during that time, and both parties agree to the risk if you are doing such on a tourist visa.

As azarashi stated, bring money. Probably US$4000-5000 to tide you over. You have no guarantee of finding a job, and you will have to set yourself up with a place to live. That might be 2 weeks or 3 months or longer. That first paycheck might not even come for 6-8 weeks after you are hired.
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hansel



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:22 pm    Post subject: OK But what about Reply with quote

Based on the responses, I think that I might prefer to line up a job before going to Tokyo. Id like to work for someone other than Nova, Geos or ECC. Are there medium to small schools in Tokyo area that hire from overseas. How do I find these schools. Do you work for one of these schools or have websites or know of good schools or related websites.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Id like to work for someone other than Nova, Geos or ECC. Are there medium to small schools in Tokyo area that hire from overseas.


Unless someone here has a specific name for such a school, the only ones that hire/sponsor from overseas include..

NOVA
ECC
GEOS
AEON
Altia
Language House
Westgate Corporation
James English School
JET Programme
Peppy Kids Club

All except LH have web pages. LH has advertised on this site before.

Several times on this and other forums, people have written to say that "there are many such places" like this, but nobody cites names.
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azarashi sushi



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are there medium to small schools in Tokyo area that hire from overseas.



In theory, there probably are... Although in reality, there are many people already in Tokyo able to attend interviews in person, so it is more likely that the job will go to one of them. I think your best chances are with the ones Glenski mentions. If you were to expand your search and look also in rural areas, I think your chances of finding a small school who hires from overseas would greatly increase.
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luvnpeas



Joined: 13 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recommendations?

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Unless someone here has a specific name for such a school, the only ones that hire/sponsor from overseas include..

NOVA
ECC
GEOS
AEON
Altia
Language House
Westgate Corporation
James English School
JET Programme
Peppy Kids Club

All except LH have web pages. LH has advertised on this site before.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, since nobody has worked at all of those places, luvnpeas, you have to go by a little experience plus a lot of hearsay.

Of the first Big Four, AEON has the best rep. Then ECC, followed by either GEOS or NOVA. All are huge places, so a lot is also determined by which branch you end up in. Some are great; some are horrible. They all have their own teaching format, which may be very old and outdated in some cases (like NOVA). Compare their FAQs to see how you fare on various standard things. I made an Excel sheet with this info, and if you want it, send me an email. [email protected]

Westgate only hires for 3 month contracts, I think. After that, you are on your own, but at least you have a visa in hand. They do not hire people on working holiday visas.

Peppy Kids Club teaches only young children, so obviously if you want to teach adults, you should look elsewhere.

JET Programme and Westgate pay for your airfare.

JET puts you in high schools, junior high schools, or elementary schools as an ALT. You assist a JTE and have your evenings free, but you may be asked to do various community functions on top of teaching. Pay is higher for JET than for most eikaiwas. The application process is long, though. Initial apps are due in December, interviews are in February, and selections are in March/April, but you don't fly here until August.
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