Site Search:
 
Get TEFL Certified & Start Your Adventure Today!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Students and Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

Z Multiple

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> China (Job-related Posts Only)
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
bobthebuilder



Joined: 31 May 2010
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:54 am    Post subject: Z Multiple Reply with quote

Why would a school request that a teacher apply for a Z multiple visa, when within 30 days the teacher would have the ability to exit and enter multiple times using his/her Resident Permit?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bobthebuilder



Joined: 31 May 2010
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brookesdara wrote:
Please read the web and forums.

A Z visa is a ONE time use thing - it simply allows you entry into the country ONCE then, in a practical sense, it's void. A resident permit is what allows you to remain in the country and have multiple entries.


Thanks for your reply, it is very much appreciated. I agree with you that what you say would make sense, however, as stated in my question it is not me that thinks there is a Z multiple (can you confirm categorically that there is no such visa available anywhere in the world?) but it is my school that requested that I get one. Why would they request I get something that doesn't exist and would be superseded by a resident permit for foreigners?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Sinobear



Joined: 24 Aug 2004
Posts: 1269
Location: Purgatory

PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps they are giving you the information that they've always used and haven't bothered to update the information that they give prospective employees.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bobthebuilder



Joined: 31 May 2010
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sinobear wrote:
Perhaps they are giving you the information that they've always used and haven't bothered to update the information that they give prospective employees.


OK, thanks for your reply. I take it from your reply that at some stage in the past Z multiple visas were issued but are no longer issued. Is that what you mean? If so, when did they stop issuing them?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bobthebuilder



Joined: 31 May 2010
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:19 am    Post subject: Z multiple Reply with quote

Taken from this website: http://www.uibe.cn/om/english/yszx.html

According to this website a Z multiple exists (unless the website is out of date) but it states "generally valid for a single entry" as well as "must apply for a Registration of Temporary Residence and for a Z Multiple-entry Visa" suggesting that they are rarely given before arriving but given after arriving.

Z visa (renzhi) �work visa�
This is what you want. The Z visa allows the bearer to work full-time in China with a Chinese or foreign company, school or other entity. This initial Z visa granted before you arrive is generally valid for a single entry and for a three-month stay. After arriving in China, Z visa holders must apply for a Registration of Temporary Residence and for a Z Multiple-entry Visa. Note that the residence permit is no longer issued as a separate document (i.e. the �little green book�) but is now simply a sticker affixed to the Z visa. To apply you�ll need completed Foreigner visa and Residence Permit Application forms affixed with your company�s seal, a health certificate (first-time applicants only) and a passport photo. You�ll need to show your marriage certificate to obtain a visa for our spouse and birth certificates for your children.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Sinobear



Joined: 24 Aug 2004
Posts: 1269
Location: Purgatory

PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that info is out-of-date. The FRP sticker replaces the Z-visa entirely. Your FRP then allows you to come and go as you please.

The initial Z-visa now means that you've been invited to come to China for work. It's a single-entry visa (30 days) in which time your employer is to apply for your work permit (FEC for teachers) and your residence permit. F and L visas still have 1, 2 or mulitple re-entries.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bobthebuilder



Joined: 31 May 2010
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sinobear wrote:
Yes, that info is out-of-date. The FRP sticker replaces the Z-visa entirely. Your FRP then allows you to come and go as you please.

The initial Z-visa now means that you've been invited to come to China for work. It's a single-entry visa (30 days) in which time your employer is to apply for your work permit (FEC for teachers) and your residence permit. F and L visas still have 1, 2 or mulitple re-entries.


Thanks for that. What if the employer claims to already have applied for the work permit and is sending it to apply for the Z visa? Can the work permit be issued before the Z visa?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
bobthebuilder



Joined: 31 May 2010
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

brookesdara wrote:
To work legally in China an employer:

obtains a work permit

then obtains the visa issuance letter, then sent to you to obtain the Z visa

then upon arrival in China you get a resident permit

So, yes, they already obtained the work permit well prior to your getting the visa


Thank you for that. I was told it was a work permit from the Foreign Expert Bureau rather than a Foreign Expert Certificate. Is the work permit alternatively named an FEC or is that a different document that I will get upon arrival?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> China (Job-related Posts Only) All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

Teaching Jobs in China
Teaching Jobs in China