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[lm_shanny]

Hi,

Can anyone tell me do Irish people qualify for working visas, they don't mention Ireland but i thought they may just considers us part of the UK.

[aeh]

I don't know the official rules but I heard that a few schools just wont employ Irish citizens at all as they say they can't get visas for them but others seem quite happy to. Not sure how they work that to be honest but I do know that it is POSSIBLE for Irish people to work in Indonesia, whether or not it is legal is, as with most things in Indo, entirely a different matter.

[malu]

I'm afraid there is no satisfactory answer to this question. When the rules were drawn up by the Manpower ministry I think they basically forgot about Ireland. I think all Manpower and Immigration chiefs at regional and national level would agree that excluding Eire from the list of countries is a mistake, but frankly there isn't much urgency to correct that mistake.

At a national level Ireland is not a significant trading partner with Indonesia and the two countries don't even have embassies in each other's capitals - the honorary Indonesian consul in Dublin is part of the London diplomatic mission. Therefore there is nothing in it for Manpower to change the rules, retrain staff, issue memoranda etc etc. At a local level some chiefs regard the anomaly as a source of extra income and don't want to lose their power of extortion in charging a bit extra to permit Irish nationals as native speaker teachers.

[travelNteach]

Actually, there is a pretty simple explanation......... If u carry a UK passport u are ok as the offical language is english. if u have an irish passport the official language is gaelic (sp). therefore they are not considered native speakers. South Africa is also excluded because of this even though 1 of their official languages is English. Interestingly enough, the USA doesnt have an official language. with all the illegal immigration, spanish will probably win out within the next couple of decades.

irish people can quailify at nationalplus or international schools, same like indians, fillipinos, singaporeans, etc as subject, grade or form teachers, even if they are basically hired to teach english. however if u are working at a language school, u are bound by the 5 official counties because u must be a "native speaker" to teach english.

[basiltherat]

Hi
Don't you think in future it might be a good idea to give a sensible subject line to the thread ?

'???' doesn't help anyone to know what the topic of the thread might be.

Even a vague one (a single word) would be welcome.

Best
Basil

[jhemmila]