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Flying over to look for work? July/August/September?

 
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chaz47



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject: Flying over to look for work? July/August/September? Reply with quote

I worked in Korea for about 5 years but left in March at the end of my last university gig. I had flown home during the winter vacation to get my criminal background check and all that business taken care of thinking that that would be less complicated than playing tag with various government offices through the mail. I also needed a break from Korea. Anyway, during that vacation I missed out on many university interviews and didn't get a position for this current semester.

I have been home in the US since then and am bored to tears. I still have 60% of my savings in Korea which I need to get out in August. So, I'm thinking about flying over in late July and August to look for university gigs and if unsuccessful in finding a new university gig I'll empty my bank account and go to Tokyo to look for work.

Does this sound feasible/logical?

I've heard the key to finding work in Tokyo is to be in Tokyo. Is this still the case? How is late summer to early autumn for job hunting?

I'll probably end up staying in a gaijin house so what sort of things should I pack? How light should I travel?

What areas are best to look for work in?

What level of language proficiency is recommended?

Etc., etc., thanks for your input.
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Glenski



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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 9:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Flying over to look for work? July/August/September? Reply with quote

chaz47 wrote:
I'm thinking about flying over in late July and August to look for university gigs
I have not seen many advertised yet for the 2011 academic year. Darned few are usually available for fall as a general rule. You do know the academic year here starts in April, don't you? Jobs start to be advertised around July-August, but that is just for interviews, and the job itself starts the following April.

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and if unsuccessful in finding a new university gig I'll empty my bank account and go to Tokyo to look for work.
Just how long do you plan to give yourself before you feel you are "unsuccessful"? Advertising trickles off around late September/October.

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Does this sound feasible/logical?
Just to find a job and interview for it? So-so. To actually start work before you leave? Practically no chance at all.

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I've heard the key to finding work in Tokyo is to be in Tokyo. Is this still the case?
The key to finding uni work in any part of Japan is to be here, be qualified (don't know if you are), and to have contacts. Being in Japan shows commitment, and if an opening comes up, you are ready to interview at a moment's notice.

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How is late summer to early autumn for job hunting?
Lukewarm at best.

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I'll probably end up staying in a gaijin house so what sort of things should I pack? How light should I travel?
For interviewing, you should pack a suit and business shoes. Anything else is up to you, but Tokyo in July/August will be hot and sweltering!

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What areas are best to look for work in?
Don't limit yourself to any areas. Have you heard about the huge glut of teachers here, especially in uni jobs?

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What level of language proficiency is recommended?
The higher the better. How's yours right now?

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Etc., etc.,
Search for my name and previous posts on university jobs. I've listed links many times. Etc., etc. etc.
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chaz47



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski,

Sorry for the confusion. I only have a BA so I'm not qualified for uni gigs in Japan. I meant that if I was unsuccessful in getting into another Korean uni I would try my luck teaching in Tokyo... in private schools, maybe something along the lines of GABA as I have a lot of adult/university experience in Korea.

So, with that in mind what are my chances of finding employment at a private school at the end of the summer?

My Japanese is basic at best. I used to be able to read hiragana and I recognize about a hundred kanji from studies of hanja for Korean. I do however have oodles of time on my hands at present so I guess I should get cracking.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If by "private school" you mean eikaiwa, odds are far better than for a private HS or private JHS. Just what those odds are, I can't say. Unfortunately, your Korean experience won't count for much in the eyes of many/most employers here.

Summer is already upon us, and more & more people seem to flood in past the gates, so competition is very high. Plus, August is when the JET programme ALTs begin, so those gigs are already taken. August itself will have a week or so of down time for job hunting because of Obon.
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chaz47



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm interested in any Tokyo EFL work for the most part. I certainly don't want to go from university teaching to kindergarten or preschool though. I'm willing to start at the relative bottom and work my way up. I did it in Korea, I can do it in Tokyo.

Things I need help with now include:
( Weren't there stickies for this stuff once upon a time ? )

1.) What sort of visa should I have while looking for work? I'll probably be entering Japan on a tourist visa, as a US citizen how long can I stay? I understand that is technically illegal to teach on a tourist visa but it is not strictly regulated? Once my tourist visa is up I'll have to move onto a student/cultural visa probably to study Japanese language and/or art, especially calligraphy. I have heard that on this visa a small amount of private teaching is OK?

2.) Should I stay in a gaijin house while searching for jobs? What areas are advised? How much should I bring? I'm thinking a minimum of 3 suits and 2 sets of casual clothes in a suitcase. A laptop, drum machine, ebook reader, PSP and toiletries divided between a large backpack and shoulder bag. Would these things be safe in a gaijin house?

3.) I'm hoping that I can find work with places such as GABA once I'm actually in Tokyo. I understand that it is important to dress smartly and I have several suits, some are however the shiny variety that Koreans seem to prefer. Is this suitable in Japan as well? What about shoes? Are casual dress shoes appropriate or will I be expected to be crisp and shiny as I pound the pavement?

4.) I'll have about 10 million Korean won to begin my job search with. Any suggestions on how to budget this based upon the above information?[/u]

... Oh, and I'm sure I'll need a prepaid mobile phone as well once I begin my job search in earnest. What should I expect to pay for one of these?

Thanks for your time and constructive advice.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chaz47 wrote:
Things I need help with now include:
( Weren't there stickies for this stuff once upon a time ? )
Yes, there were. For some reason, they have been lost for a few months now.

1.)What sort of visa should I have while looking for work?
You will arrive as a tourist. That's about it. You need to get a job first, then the work visa, not the other way around.

I'll probably be entering Japan on a tourist visa, as a US citizen how long can I stay?
90 days
http://www.mofa.go.jp/j_info/visit/visa/short/novisa.html


I understand that is technically illegal to teach on a tourist visa but it is not strictly regulated?
Not at all. Just tell immigration and customs when you enter that you are a tourist.

Once my tourist visa is up I'll have to move onto a student/cultural visa probably to study Japanese language and/or art, especially calligraphy. I have heard that on this visa a small amount of private teaching is OK?
On the visa alone, no. With special permission from immigration (easily obtained), yes.
http://www.immi-moj.go.jp/english/tetuduki/zairyuu/shikakugai.html


2.) Should I stay in a gaijin house while searching for jobs?
You won't have much choice. Most of the time an apartment rental requires a guarantor (like an employer). If you're lucky to find a place that doesn't require one, ok, but you might still have to relocate after you find a job.

What areas are advised?
Anywhere, IMO. I'd advise you to think of what climate you can stand and to think of a large urban area to base yourself.

How much should I bring? I'm thinking a minimum of 3 suits and 2 sets of casual clothes in a suitcase. A laptop, drum machine, ebook reader, PSP and toiletries divided between a large backpack and shoulder bag. Would these things be safe in a gaijin house?
Bring US$4000-5000 to tide you over until you land a job and get the first paycheck.

3 suits sounds too much.
Couldn't say whether things are safe in a gaijin house. Maybe others can answer. I'd wager yes.

3.) I'm hoping that I can find work with places such as GABA once I'm actually in Tokyo.
[b]I'd advise against that particular employer, but in general terms eikaiwa is probably one of the biggest markets you are qualified for.


I understand that it is important to dress smartly and I have several suits, some are however the shiny variety that Koreans seem to prefer. Is this suitable in Japan as well?
I have not seen shiny suits before. As long as it's business apparel, you're probably ok, including shoes. I have no idea what "casual dress shoes" means. Dockers? Probably ok, although it sounds like they will look a bit mismatched with a shiny suit.

4.) I'll have about 10 million Korean won to begin my job search with. Any suggestions on how to budget this based upon the above information?
A gaijin house will probably run 50,000-80,000 yen/month and might have a 25,000 refundable deposit. Beyond that, you need food to live on (30,000-50,000/month, depending on you), a phone for contact (10,000 for setup, 3500-8000/month for service charges depending on what plan you get), and local transportation to get around (25,000/month). There will also be sundry expenses like dry cleaning, photocopying, internet cafes, health insurance, hair care, etc. The figure I gave earlier takes all this into account.
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southofreality



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few things...

1. Come to Tokyo.

2. Rather than waiting until you get desperate, then going to GABA, you should go there immediately. I've never worked there, but Glenski's right about their overall reputation. However, with 5 years teaching in Korea, I'm sure you can hack it until you find something better. Remember, you make your own schedule there (have to be a little flexible) so not much will impede your search for a better job.

3. Gaijin houses are OK if you only want to pay first month's rent plus a small deposit. I ended up in one where the entire top floor, with the exception of myself, was rented out to a bunch of European 20-year-olds who partied all the effing time, 'round the clock. Depending on the location, however, you could pay somewhere around 100,000 yen just to settle in. Go to kimiwillbe.com and they can hook you up with your own place for around 120,000 move-in, including first month's rent. Yeah, you have to buy your own appliances, but recycle shops make that damn cheap these days. Get yourself a rice cooker (even new ones can be gotten at Don Quixote for around 5000 yen) and a crappy little used fridge from a recycle shop for like 3000 yen, and you're ok for a while.
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Romonofu-kun



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a company, Westgate Corporation (www.westgate.co.jp), that I used to work for when I was living in Tokyo. Among other things, they dispatch teachers to universities. It's basically conversation classes but your classroom is at a university. The work is sparatic in that you only teach during two semesters a year and you have to get a new contract for every semester.

It'll probably be tough getting employed with them as they require Japanese work experience and there's a lot of competition now. However, I was recently in contact with a fellow who works there and I know that they are hiring for their e-learning course, which is where you teach over the internet. Perhaps you could get a contract doing that and hope that you get the chance to impress them. The e-learning pay is low, though, and I don't know how far online teaching experience will get you, even when applying for another job at the same company.

Application for the April university program starts in August and runs until October.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Romonofu-kun wrote:
There's a company, Westgate Corporation (www.westgate.co.jp), that I used to work for when I was living in Tokyo. Among other things, they dispatch teachers to universities.
That sort of dispatch is still being debated as illegal.
http://www.generalunion.org/law/dispatch

Take care with such an employer.
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