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ord2world · Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 11:45 pm Post subject: Two Year Degree + T.E.F.L

Hello all,

I've been corresponding with EF Surabaya and they've assured me that I could teach for EF with an A.A.+T.E.F.L.. Is this true???? I was scanning the Indonesian forums regarding an A.A.+ T.E.F.L and couldn't find anything. I'm aiming for 10/2011 and wold hate to get there and then have to comeback. Ugh. Embarassed

Thanks for the help and I'd appreciate any links you could send. The Indoensian embassy in Washington D.C. couldn't even help me with this question. Hmmm.....

jhemmila · Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 49 Location: Batam, Indonesia

If it was any other school, you might have cause to worry, but I think you'd be ok with EF. But think about your options for the future: having a 4-year degree opens a lot of doors for International schools, etc, where the good jobs are.

extradross · Joined: 23 Apr 2010 Posts: 81

Not so long ago[3-4 years] a pulse and a thick european accent would have opened the doors at EF. As the northern Asian markets get flooded southwards they migrate......

travelNteach · Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Posts: 222

u are talking about october 2011???? a lot of things can change in 16 months. best to take a wait and see attifude

there is talk about changes planned for this upcoming school year for nationalplus and "international" schools and the qualificaions for people to work as teachers. Supposedly everyone will need a 4 year degree. also it has been rumored for years that the minimum age for teachers is 26 but we all know lots of people younger than that working as teachers. if immigration or manpower decide to enforce half the requriements on the books, it will be much more difficult to land a job in indonesia.

i agree jhemmila about getting a 4 year degree, but if u really want to work at the better international schools, get a BEd or science qualifaction.

ord2world · Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:26 pm Post subject:

Aahhh!!! There are too many changes! I'm going to check with the Indonesian embassy in Chicago. The one in D.C. has no clue. Someone must have some concrete information. Confused

My goal is to teach for a few years and return to finish my bachelor's. Thanks for the heads up!!!!!! Cool

travelNteach · Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Posts: 222

i am not sure that anyone really knows. that is why all the schools hire agents and the rules change depending on the immigration office. for example, the documentation required by the east jakarta administration will differ drastically from the information needed by the central jakarta one.
another factor is that they are 7 different agencies involved in approving and processing work visas and KITAS. hence the need for agents and a little cigarette money here and there to push the paperwork thru. on paper, u dont qualify without a 4 year degree and being over 26. in reality, i have known people working here that didnt graduate from high school and were only 20 years old. so if EF surabaya says they can get u a visa, chances are they probably can.

but i wouldnt even waste your time contacting various agencies. 1. they dont know. 2. whatever rules are in place now will be very different in oct. 2011.

AA degree isnt worth anything. either come now, or just chill til aug. 2011.

malu · Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 1344 Location: Sunny Java

The concept of rules and regs in Indo is a little different than in our home countries but in recent times the trend has been toward stricter enforcement and I don't see that trend reversing any time soon. Be aware that if you just slip in under the wire this year, next year it might not be so easy to do it again.

travelNteach · Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Posts: 222

malu, i agree with u about indo getting stricter but he isnt even talking about this year........... he is talking october 2011. and who gets their aa degree in october. strange

kinda senseless giving him advice so far into the future............ my crystal ball seems to be on the fritz.

ord2world · Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 4:55 pm Post subject:

Uh....I'm not getting my A.A. in October 2011. I will be leaving for Indonesia in October. I received the correct information, but thank you for your opinion!!!!! Cool

travelNteach · Joined: 14 Jul 2009 Posts: 222

PLease share this information as it has been a source of confusion for years. i am sure it would benefit many people.
thanks

ord2world · Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:32 pm Post subject:

The Consulate General of the Republic of Indonesia in Chicago- A person with a high school diploma may teach in Indonesia as long as they have completed their 120 T.E.F.L. certification. They confirmed that this will change probably within a year and everyone must have a degree. There are no plans to specify what type of degree is needed to teach throughout Indonesia. It is entirely up to the school.

EF Cikarang and EF Eduka confirmed that associate degrees are acceptable, but were more concerned with obtaining T.E.F.L. certification. Please keep in mind that they don't like the online course.

There you go!!!!!! I think that if teaching is your career you should get a bachelor's degree. I'm taking a few years off from my studies to teach in Indonesia. I hope this helps everyone!!!!!!

BTW- The embassy in Washington D.C. is totally clueless. Don't bother asking.