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eclectic



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:32 pm    Post subject: Under what "special" circumstances... Reply with quote

..can a Dean of a uni get a visa transfered to a non-home country/non-country-of-origin? Im beiong told it can be done but is difficult and a "long shot" by the HR guy who emailed me my job offer. DOn't get my hopes up of making this thing easier. Start date came and went, went WENT.......like about 30 days ago! (Guess it wasn't a real start date but just a STUNT start date). Then I get an email about starting AGAIN, .. WTF??
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We did this at Jubail; it involved the employer requesting the Foreign Ministry to transfer one of the visas under the block visa to the other consulate. The visa would be transferred to Riyadh and reissued. Would take a couple of months.

KFUPM seem to work things more easily, as they simply ask you where you would like to get the visa from. Possibly government university visas go through the Ministry of Higher Education, and thus are more flexible in procedure.
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eclectic



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IN my case its KAAU. I am hoping they can do this, as flying 20 hours from Korea to DC and then 20 hours back is all by itself not worth the effort, buit then you gotta add the time IN DC getting the exams, waiting, the $ for hotel, etc.

If they just transferred the thing here it would save me the flight time/money and extra effort.
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Stephen Jones



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're going to have to do it in the end if they want to hire teachers.
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waiting4visa



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:30 pm    Post subject: quick question Reply with quote

Hey guys: A quick question, please. Did you get a PJO from KAAU, and what has anyone heard about working for them? Lastly, is it the English Language Institute? Thanks in advance.....
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eclectic



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stephenjones u r right. If they want teachers, they have to try to accomodate somewhat. If it werent for this visa circus process, Id be there already. It seems they NEED teachers if a month after the "start date" I get an email asking for an update on my visa situation. I woulda thunk my job was sunk by now. Start date came and went. And went. Now they r implying there's a rollng start date. So Ill start rolling. Laughing
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Pikgitina



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eclectic wrote:
Now they r implying there's a rollng start date. So Ill start rolling. Laughing


Looks like you're starting to accept the "You say jump I say how high" prerequisite. Wink
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eclectic



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Stephen Jones has just talked about omelettes and how we have to get jabbed twice to get in. That sucks and is a further discouragement. Crying or Very sad
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Kalima Shahada



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eclectic wrote:
Well Stephen Jones has just talked about omelettes and how we have to get jabbed twice to get in. That sucks and is a further discouragement. Crying or Very sad


'omelettes,' is that some sort of slang term for stool sample? Yes, you have to give those twice for your work visa. Happy fishing! Laughing

Oh, and about the needle jabs, consider yourself lucky if they only jab you twice. That means they found your vein the first time on each occasion. Sometimes they use the trainees who can't find a good vein (along with improper supplies such as an injection) and you could be jabbed more times than you care to imagine. My trainee didn't know where to put the arm band (which was a common belt) and she couldn't get enough blood the first time. So she tried to get it out of my hand!

I wish I could make this kind of stuff up! Very Happy I can laugh now, but back then it wasn't very much fun. I still have nightmares.
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eclectic



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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improper supplies such as an injection


Well that is mighty grotesque. Omelettes was coined in another thread when SJ wrote about getting jabbed twice or something like that, I can't remember now. It's not a term in this case.

Anyway sounds quite nauseating. Can't wait for the Jabbery to commence.
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Kalima Shahada



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eclectic wrote:
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improper supplies such as an injection


Well that is mighty grotesque. Omelettes was coined in another thread when SJ wrote about getting jabbed twice or something like that, I can't remember now. It's not a term in this case.

Anyway sounds quite nauseating. Can't wait for the Jabbery to commence.


BTW, they need a fair amount of blood (about 10cc) because they have to do so many tests:

HIV 1&2
Malaria
HBS Ag
HBS HCV
Syphilis
RPR or VDRL
Preg. Test
Glucose

They need a test tube full of stool to check you for parasites, Schisto, Colera, etc. etc.

The urine test will check you for sugar, protein and schisto again along with drugs.

Oh, and if you have so much as one varicose vein, you will be rejected for a visa - that's what the doctor said and it's listed on my medical form as one of the items to check.

You need an X-ray too to check for TB.

Needless to say, if you can pass all that TWICE, you are as healthy as they come.
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eclectic



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They need a test tube full of stool


thats the first time I ever heard it put quite that way.
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SNIZ



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:50 am    Post subject: this is exactly what happened to us Reply with quote

my husband being a US citizen was told he could collect his visa from australia where he has no residence but it is my country of citizenship and residence and so he came here to collect only to find out 4 months later that he needs to go back to the states because it was taking far too long, since he left his other job, we really had no other option so he went to the states and 3 weeks later he got his visa and is in Saudi now while me and my son, 2 months later, still waiting to join him Smile goodluck
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Never Ceased To Be Amazed



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didja ever hear the one where the guy was told by the doctor that he had to submit a stool, urine, blood and semen sample? Laughing

NCTBA
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Mr. Mead



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eclectic, your situation is not unique amongst new KAAU arrivals. Off hand I am aware of at least four colleagues as well as myself who have had their visas issued to non-origin countries. While there is tremendous lag and incompetence on the paper-pushing front, you might do well to consider their ambivalence towards your situation. New teachers are trickling in each week, but overall staffing needs have been widely met for the meanwhile, so they may be less inclined to attempt visa "long shots", instead opting for easier hires.

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If they want teachers, they have to try to accomodate somewhat


If you're seeking to be accommodated, you're involving yourself with the wrong employer. This job is as DIY as it gets, from housing, bank account, licenses and iqamas to every single step in the university induction process (faculty card, office keys, user ID, printer access, basic equipment lease, and others too painful to recall). Saudi is unusually bureaucratic and inefficient to begin with, but here especially, by the time it takes to figure out how to do each of these on your own (as some of these are still being sorted out), the contract is already one-quarter finished. So if you think the headaches end once you get your visa, think again. The visa is but your sail towards rougher seas.
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