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Quick Question - Country with the simplest hire process?

 
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AdamtheJohnson



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:35 am    Post subject: Quick Question - Country with the simplest hire process? Reply with quote

Newb question, motivated mostly by last minute life-changes. But what country, on the whole, has the most expedited (IE, fastest) hiring process, where they would set up the living arrangements? And what qualifications would one need? (I have a Bachelor's)

Not trying to appear lazy here, just curious which country I could "turn key" and get away for a while, dip my feet into the ESL pool, and leave with a few hundred more than I arrived with.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:45 am    Post subject: Re: Quick Question - Country with the simplest hire process? Reply with quote

AdamtheJohnson wrote:
Newb question, motivated mostly by last minute life-changes. But what country, on the whole, has the most expedited (IE, fastest) hiring process, where they would set up the living arrangements? And what qualifications would one need? (I have a Bachelor's)

Not trying to appear lazy here, just curious which country I could "turn key" and get away for a while, dip my feet into the ESL pool, and leave with a few hundred more than I arrived with.


there are 3 things to consider:
1) fast
2) easy
3) cheap (to get started)

You can pick any 2 of the 3.

Fast and easy won't be cheap (you need money up front).
Fast and cheap won't be easy.
Cheap and easy won't be fast.

Turn key with little cash outlay and decent savings (for entry level stuff) would be Korea but the process for the work visa is complicated at best.
(see the Korean forums ( http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/ )for specifics).

Easiest places (visa wise) would be China and Thailand but you need enough cash to pay your airfare in and see you through to pay day ($2000).

Everything else would be somewhere in between as far as Asia goes.
I expect the rest of the planet would be similar in nature/scope.

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AdamtheJohnson



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Given the ever escalating political climate, is Korea still considered a safe place to be?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fast, easy, cheap, and save a bit - it's definitely not in Europe.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AdamtheJohnson wrote:
Given the ever escalating political climate, is Korea still considered a safe place to be?


It is only an issue for CNN.

In real terms, it is business as usual in South Korea and a change of king in the north (hence the reason for the posturing). Please note that there are NO embassy warning from anyone about safety or stability in South Korea.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tttompatz wrote:
AdamtheJohnson wrote:
Given the ever escalating political climate, is Korea still considered a safe place to be?


It is only an issue for CNN.

In real terms, it is business as usual in South Korea and a change of king in the north (hence the reason for the posturing). Please note that there are NO embassy warning from anyone about safety or stability in South Korea.

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so the pluses for Korea are thus: room and board, good pay, cheap lifestyle and cheap & easy app process.

How is the lifestyle in Korea for americans? Is it a good "entry way' into the rest of Asia?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AdamtheJohnson wrote:
tttompatz wrote:
AdamtheJohnson wrote:
Given the ever escalating political climate, is Korea still considered a safe place to be?


It is only an issue for CNN.

In real terms, it is business as usual in South Korea and a change of king in the north (hence the reason for the posturing). Please note that there are NO embassy warning from anyone about safety or stability in South Korea.

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so the pluses for Korea are thus: room and board, good pay, cheap lifestyle and cheap & easy app process.

How is the lifestyle in Korea for americans? Is it a good "entry way' into the rest of Asia?


Pluses for Korea are: rent free (same as China), good pay (similar to Japan and Taiwan for entry level jobs) and pre-paid airfare.

disadvantages: No board - you pay for your own groceries and utilities. Another is the difficulty in obtain a work visa (in terms of documentation) and the requirement to return to your home country for a consular interview before you get a work visa. Most other countries are much easier to gain employment and a work visa (assuming you have the minimum qualification of a Bachelors degree).

The lifestyle in the major cities in Korea is not substantially different than America in terms of quality of life and creature comforts. The only real differences that an American would see are the violence and aggressive police presence. It doesn't (by comparison) exist in Korea. America is a far worse country to live in. You can walk the streets of Seoul at 3am and have no worry other than where to find a place to urinate.

Many other Asian countries / cities are similar in terms of personal safety.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

China is pretty easy as far as visa requirements and getting a job go. Korea is also easy, but lots of visa hoops. there's a separate Korean forum, so we can't really talk much sbout Korea on these boards. I will say this, there are tons and tons of teachers here, so there must be something good about it Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cant seem to access the Korean forums...

How much does it take to get started? I know you have to ferry back and forth a bit between nations during the visa process? So from, say, today to my first day of teaching, how much money would that be, ballpark? (I'm trying to plan it out a bit, gotta save up)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Per the locked Announcement at the top of this forum, living and teaching in Korea questions and discussions should occur on the Korea Board and not on the International Board:

http://forums.eslcafe.com/job/viewtopic.php?t=79359
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